# Glee: 3.06 "Mash Off" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 15, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065 "2011-11-15T23:25:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/21 "2011-11-17T21:56:54Z")

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Well, the Adele mash-up was fabulous. But I wish Kurt had just gone with an anti-bullying campaign, would have been much more powerful.

Puck’s mohawk is disturbing me.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/22 "2011-11-17T22:28:21Z")

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Damien McGinty has perfectly normal Derry accent, [which generally sounds like that](http://s203.photobucket.com/albums/aa233/sesquedelamystic/?action=view&current=Derryaccent.mp4&sort=ascending). Sorry.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/23 "2011-11-17T22:39:26Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> No idea where the new Scottish kid popped up from - did I miss something somewhere or was it just a totally awkward insert? Hm, just checking seems I did miss an entire episode. Must have been a DVR malfunction.

Me too!

Since you mentioned it and it happened to us too, I checked what the internet has to say. Tivo Communities indicates that all TiVos set to record Glee with First Run Only missed an episode. I guess it was incorrectly flagged as a rerun.  
The missing episode coincided with some travel so we didn’t notice it until this past episode when we were very confused by random guy and other random dramas. Funny, last episode didn’t cause any confusion from the missing storyline.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/24 "2011-11-18T01:29:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Jennyrosity]  
But I wish Kurt had just gone with an anti-bullying campaign, would have been much more powerful.

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I was gay in a conservative high school, and I was bullied (though not for being gay since I wasn’t out), but damn it, dodgeball was the one “sport” in P.E. I liked and was good at… really.😃

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/25 "2011-11-18T01:34:31Z")

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The anti-dodgeball campaign doesn’t make any sense at all to me - is he trying to throw the election or something? Anti-bullying makes a helluva lot more sense. Kurt going silly with an anti-split ends campaign or something shallow would make more sense, even.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/26 "2011-11-18T02:31:36Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> The anti-dodgeball campaign doesn’t make any sense at all to me - is he trying to throw the election or something? Anti-bullying makes a helluva lot more sense. Kurt going silly with an anti-split ends campaign or something shallow would make more sense, even.

Yeah, not only had a dodgeball problem never been mentioned even once before this episode, but the sole dodgeball game in _this_ episode was 1) voluntary, 2) held after school, and 3) suggested by Kurt’s own stepbrother. Based on what we’ve seen, he could effectively end dodgeball at McKinley by just pointing out to Finn that it isn’t actually a very good way to resolve glee club conflict.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Several times now they’ve made jokes about Finn being fat; when he walked in boxers through the hallway there was even a joke about students needing counseling. Where do these come from? He’s not skinny, and he does have a large frame (which he couldn’t do anything about if he ingested nothing but spinach juice for a year, but he’s not fat by any stretch.

I think that’s just Santana being a bitch. She and Quinn have also repeatedly made fun of Rachel for her supposedly heavy facial and body hair, but if Rachel actually does have a mustache problem then she is apparently careful about depilation because I’ve never seen any sign of it.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/27 "2011-11-18T02:47:10Z")

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Not that it matters for GLEE, but would a politician be within legal rights to out and use a student who

1- Is only _rumored_ to be a lesbian\*  
2- Is not a public figure  
3- Is a minor (I’m assuming she’s 17 or younger)

I’m guessing that a politician who did that would get his ass sued off for everything from invasion of privacy to malicious gossip to libel\*\*.

I’m guessing that they’re setting this up to counterbalance Kurt, who had a positive coming-out experience, and show the flip side of gays whose parents do NOT accept them. Which could mean a job for [A Martinez](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553436/)and Elizabeth Peña or other C-list Hispanic character actors to play her traditionalist parents with [Shelley Morrison](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0607314/) having “Special Guest Star” as the evil abuela. I can see the family rejecting her except the grandmother who confides that the reason she’s evil is because she’s bitter, and the reason she’s bitter is because she’s a lesbian too, “so follow your dream querida, and by dream I mean las muffinas”.

(Too bad Cesar Romero isn’t around to play her grandfather, but since he never came out/had some orientation related baggage himself he probably wouldn’t have taken the role anyway.)

\*I know that Santana _is_ a lesbian (or perhaps bi), but she’s never come out and all the politician’s niece could know is that Finn called her one and that she’s rumored to be dating Brittany, and the fact that both Santana and Brittany have gone with (lots of) men clouds the issue.

\*\*Even is Santana is the lesbianest lesbian this side of Lesbianopolis he can’t _prove_ anything.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/28 "2011-11-18T16:17:26Z")

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I was fine with Finn outing Santana. She was all levels of bitch to him - really bullying. She doesn’t get some magical shield simply because her weak spot is her orientation.

I would think the defense against libel claim would be the truth of the claim.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/29 "2011-11-18T23:14:56Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> I was fine with Finn outing Santana. She was all levels of bitch to him - really bullying. She doesn’t get some magical shield simply because her weak spot is her orientation.

If Finn had said exactly the same thing to her in private or in the choir room in front of the rest of the club then I’d say Santana got what was coming to her – if anything the stuff she said to Finn was crueler than what he said to her. But although Finn could not have predicted (because it doesn’t really make sense) that his words would lead to Santana being outed in a campaign ad, he knows perfectly well that there’s a history of violent anti-gay bullying at McKinley…and that the administration can’t or won’t do much about it.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/30 "2011-11-19T00:29:31Z")

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Santana’s the biggest bully of them all, she deserves whatever she gets.

And screw anyone who wants to ban dodgeball. Dodgeball days were the only days I didn’t dread gym.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/31 "2011-11-20T00:12:06Z")

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Right. [Everything I learned in life, I learned in dodgeball.](http://jayforde.com/everything-i-learned-in-life-i-learned-in-dodgeball/)

Who exactly ran the commercial? Couldn’t have been Burt.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/32 "2011-11-20T04:07:42Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Who exactly ran the commercial? Couldn’t have been Burt.

The other party candidate. Burt is running as a write-in.

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**Author:** ![parsnip](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parsnip/32/4564_2.png) [@parsnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parsnip)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/33 "2011-11-20T04:14:20Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I was rather pleasantly surprised that this episode  
> As for the music, I liked the Adele medley, and the '80s dodgeball number was pretty fun. However, I think a teenager in the year 2011 suggesting a Hall & Oates medley _and_ all his classmates enthusiastically agreeing with him may be one of the least plausible things ever to happen on _Glee_.

I have cut back from watching Glee to just reading the boards–however, the 15 yo in my house announced the Hall & Oates was the 2nd best after Adele.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/34 "2011-11-20T05:07:52Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> (Too bad Cesar Romero isn’t around to play her grandfather, but since he never came out/had some orientation related baggage himself he probably wouldn’t have taken the role anyway.)

At 104, he’d have to be at least her great-grandfather.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/35 "2011-11-20T07:40:00Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> At 104, he’d have to be at least her great-grandfather.

Not necessarily. His fellow Latin-lover-type Anthony Quinn would be 96 if he were alive, and his two youngest children are teenagers. (His two oldest would be in their 70s if they were still alive.)

Weirder is the family of Julio Iglesias. He’s 68 and he has children, grandchildren, and half-siblings under the age of 10.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-06-mash-off-open-spoilers/603065/36 "2011-11-20T08:12:38Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Not necessarily. His fellow Latin-lover-type Anthony Quinn would be 96 if he were alive, and his two youngest children are teenagers. (His two oldest would be in their 70s if they were still alive.)
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> Weirder is the family of Julio Iglesias. He’s 68 and he has children, grandchildren, and half-siblings under the age of 10.

Well, sure, but this is Fox. There’s no way [Rupert Murdoch](http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/183915/20110720/rupert-murdoch-wendi-deng-children-daughters.htm) would let his television station show off that sort of breakdown in the traditional family.

😉

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