# Glee: 3.08 "Hold on to Sixteen" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 7, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320 "2011-12-07T00:18:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![boozilu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@boozilu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boozilu)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/41 "2011-12-09T00:23:21Z")

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> Originally posted by **Eyebrows 0f Doom**  
> I can’t believe that Red Solo Cup thing is a real song. Brittany’s song about her hairband had more depth.

Brit’s song was “My Cup”. Rachel wrote the song about her hairband.

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/42 "2011-12-09T01:06:19Z")

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> [@boozilu](#):
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> Brit’s song was “My Cup”.

Wow, yeah, I forgot that song. eerily similar. One was written by a fictional borderline-retarded high school cheerleader… and one claims to be a real song. Yet, so similar…

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/43 "2011-12-09T02:50:50Z")

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I can’t believe one of the teams beat out Harmony singing Buenos Aires. Forget both. I hope she does become a regular.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/44 "2011-12-09T03:51:33Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Sorry \*\*alphaboi867 \*\*-- if it makes you feel better, the strip club sequence was brief and didn’t seem any more explicit than last year’s locker room sequences. (I did think it was odd that Finn considered the sight of stripper Sam so traumatic when he must have seen him nude or semi-nude all the time when they were on the football team together.)…

Not that I’m complaining, but I think I prefer those lockerrom scenes. And sure Finn has seen Sam naked plenty of times before (in that’s how he discovered Sam’s singing abilities), but he didn’t think anything sexual of it. This was different. This was a strip club, Finn was the only male in the audience, and same was dancing around and thrusting his crotch into the air. Kinda hard for Finn to ignore the sexual aspect of it even if he’s 100% straight.

I really don’t like Sebastian. Even as a vilian he’s nothing more than a sluttier, twinkier verson of Kurt. The only reason I could see Blaine being interested in him would involve Sebastian wanting to do stuff that; Kurt won’t, and can barely be implied in Glee’s timeslot. If there’s going to be a gay love triangle I’d much prefer it to be a Kurt-Karofsky-Blaine one. Yeah, Kurt falling for Karofsky would be really strange, but in a good way. Hell it’d be worth doing if only to see the looks on everybody’s else’s faces.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/45 "2011-12-09T04:28:47Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I really don’t like Sebastian. Even as a vilian he’s nothing more than a sluttier, twinkier verson of Kurt. The only reason I could see Blaine being interested in him would involve Sebastian wanting to do stuff that; Kurt won’t, and can barely be implied in Glee’s timeslot.

Well, maybe they could reveal that Sebastian is willing to take his socks off before they get in bed with their shirts and pants on for some hot and heavy hand holding.

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> If there’s going to be a gay love triangle I’d much prefer it to be a Kurt-Karofsky-Blaine one. Yeah, Kurt falling for Karofsky would be really strange, but in a good way. Hell it’d be worth doing if only to see the looks on everybody’s else’s faces.

I’d be opposed to Kurt winding up romantically involved with Karofsky if only because I think it would send a horrible message about sexual assault, but it wouldn’t be the first horrible message on _Glee_ and as a storyline it would be a lot better and more interesting than Sebastian. What I think could work well would be Karofsky making it clear that he’s interested in Kurt, and Kurt not returning his affections but agreeing to hang out with him as friends because he wants to be supportive. This would make Blaine uncomfortable/jealous and drama could build from there.

The gay love triangle I was really hoping to see this season was Brittany/Santana/new lesbian character. At the end of last season it seemed like Brittany just wanted to be friends, so Santana could meet someone new. Although Brittany is a fun character, I don’t feel she works as a serious love interest for anyone. The writers went too far in giving her the mind of a child during season two and it just became creepy.

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**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/46 "2011-12-09T14:14:40Z")

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I loved Kurt’s expression du

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**Author:** ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/47 "2011-12-09T14:23:30Z")

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Stupid iPhone. As I was saying…

I loved Kurt’s expression during Red Solo Cup, but echo the disbelief that it’s actually a real song. And yes, Mike Chang’s dad reaction was completely unrealistic (and at his age I was a budding actress who got persuaded to take an English degree “as a back-up”), I still liked it. It made I happy.

I also thought that The Troubletones dance routine was just plain weird, and that New Directions actually performed like a choir for the first time, rather than backing singers to one or two soloists.

And I liked the return of Sam, he seemed to have more personality than he did last season and I thought his determination to get Mercedes back was adorable.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/48 "2011-12-10T01:49:30Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> This. I had to google it to confirm, and I’m still not convinced it isn’t all a big practical joke on the part of the glee writers.  
> Remember, this is Glee. He’ll try to go home to Ireland, and the New Directions will beg him to stay for Nationals, and he’ll either convince his parents to move to the U.S. or sacrifice them in a Blaine-tanic ritual.

Or it will turn out that Brittany was right all along, and he really is a leprechaun.  
Anyway, I gotta think that Santana would give the best lap dances, but I’m almost tempted to choose Sue, because really, how often would something like that happen in the history of the universe.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/49 "2011-12-10T04:50:40Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Wow, yeah, I forgot that song. eerily similar. One was written by a fictional borderline-retarded high school cheerleader… and one claims to be a real song. Yet, so similar…

I like some country music. When that song came on my husband asked me if I’d ever heard of it. I said, ‘‘No, but it sounds like something Toby Keith would write.’’

I opened the thread and fuck it if I’m not right! I hate his stupid face!

I loved the Survivor/I Will Survive mash-up. The other numbers just didn’t do it for me.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/50 "2011-12-10T09:25:43Z")

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Totally out of left field announcement, but just in case anybody’s interested:

The film TWELVE THIRTY, available streaming on Netflix, stars Jonathan Groff (Jesse St. James from the last two seasons- Rachel’s way too gay squeeze) and- well, boy ain’t shy. Full frontal, several times, and quite loverly.

Now if only Darren Criss and Harry Shum will decide to go art house…

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**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/51 "2011-12-10T17:14:09Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I don’t have any trouble believing that Quinn _thinks_ she’ll get into Yale. It’s not very likely that it would actually happen (although IIRC it has been mentioned that her grades are excellent), but Quinn has had unrealistic plans and expectations before. As competitive as Yale is, she probably has a better chance of being accepted than she did of successfully framing Shelby for child abuse and regaining custody of Beth.

maybe she is a legacy?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/52 "2011-12-10T23:00:07Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Totally out of left field announcement, but just in case anybody’s interested:
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> The film TWELVE THIRTY, available streaming on Netflix, stars Jonathan Groff (Jesse St. James from the last two seasons- Rachel’s way too gay squeeze) and- well, boy ain’t shy. Full frontal, several times, and quite loverly.
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> Now if only Darren Criss and Harry Shum will decide to go art house…

Cory Monteith did rear nudity in some Canadian film before Glee.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/53 "2011-12-10T23:16:05Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Cory Monteith did rear nudity in some Canadian film before Glee.

_[Bloody Mary](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469684/)_, a 2006 horror film.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-08-hold-on-to-sixteen-open-spoilers/605320/54 "2011-12-11T14:31:02Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Totally out of left field announcement, but just in case anybody’s interested:
> 
> The film TWELVE THIRTY, available streaming on Netflix, stars Jonathan Groff (Jesse St. James from the last two seasons- Rachel’s way too gay squeeze) and- well, boy ain’t shy. Full frontal, several times, and quite loverly.
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> Now if only Darren Criss and Harry Shum will decide to go art house…

Criss plays Kristen Wiig’s boy toy in the upcoming _[Imogene](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1698648/)_, so while full frontal is unlikely there’s a decent chance he’ll be showing more skin than he has to date on _Glee_.

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