# Glee 4/10: Big Brother **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418 "2012-04-11T00:13:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stauderhorse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Stauderhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stauderhorse)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/21 "2012-04-12T18:09:44Z")
This wasn’t the worst episode, but it was pretty weak. The musical numbers were lame and autotuned to hell; I actually rolled my eyes when Blaine started singing “Stronger”. Given that we didn’t know Blaine had a brother before this episode, it’s really hard for me to care about their conflict. The stuff with Will and Sue was pretty stupid as well. Wow, Sue was mean to the Glee club and criticized their dancing? Well, gee, who would have predicted that someone who’s done countless heinous things to students would be cruel and unfair? It also bugs me that Artie is going for out of his way to make Quinn feel good about her situation, and she’s bragging about how she’ll be out of the chair in no time and implying that her life will be ruined if she’s stuck in one forever. Because clearly you can’t attend Yale in a wheelchair. :rolleyes: Honestly, the only reason I’m still watching this trainwreck is that I want to know what happens to Finn, Rachel, and Kurt in the long-term. I don’t give a feather about any of the other characters, but I’d like to see Rachel and Kurt becoming hugely successful in theater, and Finn…being happy with Rachel. ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/22 "2012-04-12T18:14:40Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > Is it just me or was the Autotune particularly blatant and annoying for the Duran Duran number? It was blatant and annoying for all of them. After I noticed it in I’m Still Standing, I couldn’t not notice it all the way through. And the sound was off from the mouth movements, which didn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/23 "2012-04-12T18:26:59Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > If it makes your creep factor better, none of the actors who play students (regulary) are over 30 yrs old (or older) > > Puck will be 30 later this year. My mistake, I thought Puck was already 30-something. As for their over-the-top song 'n dance routines - I just figure that they’re imagining all that in their heads. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/24 "2012-04-13T00:22:03Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > I only watch “Glee” now out of habit because I’ve been watching it since Day 1, even though it “jumped the shark” ages ago. I think I’ve said this on here before, but in a sense the _Glee_ shark came pre-jumped. I know the term is broadly used to refer to the moment when something really started to suck, but the original meaning was more the moment when a TV show abandoned realism/its original premise in favor of ridiculous storylines and attention-getting gimmicks. But with _Glee_ the original premise pretty much _was_ ridiculous storylines and attention-getting gimmicks. I mention this largely because I wanted to link to the recent Salon article “[Was Glee ever good?](http://www.salon.com/2012/04/10/was_glee_ever_good/singleton/)” I don’t agree with everything in this piece, and the author makes a few factual errors about the show, but I do agree with the general point. While _Glee_ was once better than it is now, many of the show’s problematic elements have been present from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/25 "2012-04-13T00:36:24Z")
This was a pretty weak episode for back from cliffhanger/hiatus. Most of the storylines were good, but lacked a little punch in execution, and the one with Blaine’s brother fell flat. Bomer and his character were great, and his scenes with everyone other than Blaine were fine, but the story about Blaine being upset with him didn’t really work. I like new nicer Sue, and that story works now that she has a foil in the swim coach. I don’t feel like they needed to give her a downs baby though. The songs were mostly meh. I get annoyed when they stray too far from mis en scene. Up Up Up was fun and scene appropriate. Somebody I Used to Know was great as a single, but wasn’t scene appropriate and musically works better as a duet between a male and female as counterpart (or at least two singers with distinctively different voices). ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/26 "2012-04-13T01:44:42Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > This was a pretty weak episode for back from cliffhanger/hiatus. Most of the storylines were good, but lacked a little punch in execution, and the one with Blaine’s brother fell flat. Bomer and his character were great, and his scenes with everyone other than Blaine were fine, but the story about Blaine being upset with him didn’t really work. Yeah, his brother was kind of a jerk, but that doesn’t really merit TWO dramatic musical numbers. And while there’s only so much I can care about a relationship that was never hinted at before this episode, it seems like it would have been easy to either tone down the drama or give the conflict some actual weight. Prior to this episode all we really knew about Blaine’s backstory was that his father was disappointed in him for being gay, and he was bullied at his pre-Dalton school. A line or two from Blaine about how he’d wished his cool older brother had stuck around to protect him would have at least done something to justify all those scrunchy faces. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/27 "2012-04-13T03:01:06Z")
Where is a Six Flags close to their school in Ohio? ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/28 "2012-04-13T03:49:41Z")
> [@Pai325](#): > > Where is a Six Flags close to their school in Ohio? In the real world? The Chicago area, a six hour drive from Lima. In the Gleeverse there may well be one closer, as at the end of season two Blaine was planning to work at a Six Flags over the summer. Perhaps the show exists in an alternate timeline where there’s still a [Six Flags in Aurora, OH](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geauga_Lake_%28amusement_park%29#Six_Flags_era), although that’s still a good three hours from Lima. This show has never been very good about local color or even geography, though. One exception is that IIRC Blaine was practicing “Baby It’s Cold Outside” for the Christmas show at [Kings Island](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Island) (within two hours of Westerville) back in the season two Christmas episode, but since then whenever they’ve mentioned an amusement park it’s been Six Flags instead. Maybe Six Flags worked out some kind of product placement deal. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/29 "2012-04-13T04:16:51Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > In the real world? The Chicago area, a six hour drive from Lima. In the Gleeverse there may well be one closer, as at the end of season two Blaine was planning to work at a Six Flags over the summer. Perhaps the show exists in an alternate timeline where there’s still a [Six Flags in Aurora, OH](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geauga_Lake_%28amusement_park%29#Six_Flags_era), although that’s still a good three hours from Lima. This show has never been very good about local color or even geography, though. I wondered about that. For so many things I can ignore reality. Their clothes, how the school is run, how they act, but then some minor thing like Six Flags comes along and I sit up and say, “Wait a minute!” ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/30 "2012-04-13T21:00:37Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > In the real world? The Chicago area, a six hour drive from Lima. In the Gleeverse there may well be one closer, as at the end of season two Blaine was planning to work at a Six Flags over the summer. Perhaps the show exists in an alternate timeline where there’s still a [Six Flags in Aurora, OH](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geauga_Lake_%28amusement_park%29#Six_Flags_era), although that’s still a good three hours from Lima. This show has never been very good about local color or even geography, though. Three hours away doesn’t sound that bad. When I was in high school we took a trip to Cedar Point, and that’s quite a few hours away from where I am in Michigan. You just leave really early and get back really late. That wasn’t senior skip day, though, the seniors were off in Florida on their senior trip. We didn’t do any organized activities for skip day, it was just “hey, stay home, don’t have to go to school, YAY” Actually that one’s much shorter than a trip for Church group a couple of years earlier. For that one we went to King’s Island. We left so early for that one we had the spend the night before at the Church. Anyway, enough about that, I thought the episode itself was one of the best they’ve had in a long time. Maybe the best since season 1. I did snigger at “Rio by Duran Duran” but that’s just because of this board. And I totally got WOOOSHED by the Cooper Anderson joke until shortly after watching I was flipping through the channel guide and saw a listing for Anderson Cooper 360. I would much prefer a spinoff about Puck and Finn in CA cleaning pools by day trying to be rockstars by night than one with Rachel and Kurt at NYATA. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/31 "2012-04-13T23:07:02Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > Is it just me or was the Autotune particularly blatant and annoying for the Duran Duran number? It rankled in every musical number. For me, it’s actually the hardest thing to forgive/overlook about this show. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/32 "2012-04-14T01:48:24Z")
I need a Matt Bomer “Glee” spinoff like yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/33 "2012-04-14T02:35:37Z")
We didn’t call it Senior Skip day when I was in school. We called it ‘Thursday’. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/34 "2012-04-14T04:14:26Z")
Was “I’m Still Standing” the first Elton John song they’ve done on the show? ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/35 "2012-04-14T05:12:31Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Was “I’m Still Standing” the first Elton John song they’ve done on the show? I’m pretty sure “Don’t Go Breaking My Heart” was used at one point. (Google Google Google…) [Yup](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tfy_FIEETU), it was the duet that Rachel and Finn rehearsed but decided was too good to sing in the duet competition back in season two. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/36 "2012-04-14T05:50:12Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I’m pretty sure “Don’t Go Breaking My Heart” was used at one point. > > (Google Google Google…) > > [Yup](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tfy_FIEETU), it was the duet that Rachel and Finn rehearsed but decided was too good to sing in the duet competition back in season two. Thanks! When they do another all-one-artist’s-songs show, I hope they consider Sir Elton. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/37 "2012-04-14T12:51:03Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Thanks! When they do another all-one-artist’s-songs show, I hope they consider Sir Elton. I hope they never do another all-one-artist’s-songs show, because they generally blow. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/38 "2012-04-14T14:46:35Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > I hope they never do another all-one-artist’s-songs show, because they generally blow. My feelings as well, although I have heard that the next TWO episodes are going to be all-one-artist. That will make three this season, despite Ryan Murphy promising over the summer that there would be at most one. In theory I think it would be possible to do a decent episode built around Elton John’s music – he certainly has more good songs than does Britney Spears – but in practice _Glee_ tribute episodes are almost always tedious and awful. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/39 "2012-04-14T15:00:59Z")
I wonder if Sue is going to have a miscarriage. I’m pretty sure they don’t have guts for her to abort, but Sue having a full pregnancy and labor and then a special needs child would be a major plot-time commitment. I hope that Damian McGinty and Samuel Larsen are getting well compensated for their time. They must feel a tad jerked around that they won a reality show to be on GLEE and they’re slightly more than extras. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418/40 "2012-04-14T15:19:44Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if Sue is going to have a miscarriage. I’m pretty sure they don’t have guts for her to abort, but Sue having a full pregnancy and labor and then a special needs child would be a major plot-time commitment. Or she has the baby and it is never seen or spoken of again. Not uncommon on a television series. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-4-10-big-brother/618418.md?page=3)