# Glee! 5/4 Episode: Bad Reputation \[Open Spoilers\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 5, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399 "2010-05-05T13:40:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/41 "2010-05-06T13:14:28Z")

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For me, when I see the scenes with Sue’s sister Jean, I don’t believe I’m seeing Sue. I feel like I’m seeing more of the real Jane Lynch - who I understand is a real sweetheart. So in that scene, I don’t feel like I’m seeing any acting, just Jayne prompting Robin Trocki (who plays Jean) to say her lines . And that makes it’s disjointed for me.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/42 "2010-05-06T13:19:13Z")

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I remember Run, Joey, Run from 1975. I was 4 years old. An apparition of Jesus’s face had allegedly appeared on the altar cloth of a Catholic church in Shamokin, PA. My Catholic mother and aunt made the 3 hour drive from Altoona to Shamokin, with me in tow, to see it. In that 6 hour round-trip, I think the radio stations we pulled in along the way played RJR at least 12 times. I have that song still lying restlessly in the [del]groove[/del] canyon that it carved into my brain that summer day 35 years ago.  
(And no, I never did actually see the face. I tried like crazy, but nothing. I think that’s the day I REALLY lost my faith, though it took me another 14 years to actually toss the whole construct aside.)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/43 "2010-05-06T16:33:14Z")

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> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> Speaking of, were anyone else’s ears bleeding at the massive autotune on Physical? I understand if Jane Lynch is not really a singer, but damn. Vogue sounded a lot better. Then again, the visuals were pretty distracting . . . loved the girls demanding an immediate second viewing. 🙂

All the more so since they’d gone back to more moderation on Autotune for a few episodes only to come back with a vengeance. I wish somebody would link that device to al Quaeda or a school shooting or Faisal Shahzad so that people would get rid of it once and for all.  
As for Jane Lynch, she sang in _A Mighty Wind_ and while I doubt she’d sell albums she can carry a tune. Plus, you have Olivia Newton John there, all she really has to do is harmonize and lip sync. (I loved Sue’s line “I’m not working with her again”- in her mind they’re totally on equal footing as singers.)

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The big problem since GLEE’s return is that Sue has to carry the show. Mr. Shu just isn’t that interesting- he’s too nice- and the drama in the club members lives just lacks the baby-daddy-drama of earlier episodes. They need more interesting arcs.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/44 "2010-05-06T16:37:16Z")

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They need the return of Teri.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/45 "2010-05-06T16:39:53Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> I was listening to Top-40 radio in 1975. I guess I’ve blocked it from my memory. Why can’t I do that with “(Hey Won’t You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song?”

You are Teh Evil. Stupid earworm song can’t get out of brain!

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/46 "2010-05-06T16:58:03Z")

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Did anybody notice the fat curly haired kid in the library when they did their MC Hammer Muppet Babies thing was sitting in the Glee club next time they met? I wonder if his character will be developed.

And I would love to sing with Mark Sallis… I’d love to sing with him for days and days. All kinds of different songs. (I think he’s going to be really famous in a couple of years- he’s not a bad actor and a decent singer and of course could burn all the oil in the Gulf with his hotness.)

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/47 "2010-05-06T17:14:57Z")

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Yes, I want to see him more too. And more of him, except I’ve seen enough of his armpits now. I think they can start phasing out the Mohawk; we get that he is a Bad Boy. And **Sampiro** , yes, there has been talk about the fat kid (I hate calling him that); apparently he’s been in some other background scenes and he seems to be one of those try-to-spot-him things, like NINA in Hirschfeld sketches.

Sorry, **MissTake** , I know. Try “Before the Next Teardrop Falls” as an antidote.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/48 "2010-05-06T17:18:04Z")

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I believe he was in the AV Club.

ETA - the fat kid, I mean.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/49 "2010-05-06T18:15:56Z")

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As a former fat kid who became a fat adult, I give license to call him “the fat kid” with impunity until he has a name.

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**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/50 "2010-05-06T19:27:33Z")

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He’s like Jonathan from _Buffy the Vampire Slayer._ Wouldn’t it be great if the arc about him was done by Joss Whedon?

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/51 "2010-05-06T21:00:26Z")

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Yes, I was referring to “Nude Erections”.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/52 "2010-05-06T21:02:57Z")

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that fat kid is popping up on a lot of shows. chuck, im sure of. he’s a buy-more employee in that one. personally he creeps me out a little, but i can appreciate the typecast role he fills.

i’m willing to give this forgettable 2nd half of the season a pass since they rushed it, but if the next season is as poorly constructed, i’ll probably stop watching this show.

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**Author:** ![fc1114](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@fc1114](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fc1114)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/53 "2010-05-07T22:49:10Z")

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One more new episode before the start of the concert tour. Yes, I’m going to the Phoenix show next week.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/54 "2010-05-12T00:37:36Z")

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Did they really need to autotune Olivia Newton John singing Physical? I mean, come on, that’s like painting pants on Michelangelo’s David or something. Autotuning Sue, well, still annoying, but understandable, but autotuning the original star who original did it without any such shenanigans? Come on!

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/55 "2010-05-12T03:05:51Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Did they really need to autotune Olivia Newton John singing Physical? I mean, come on, that’s like painting pants on Michelangelo’s David or something. Autotuning Sue, well, still annoying, but understandable, but autotuning the original star who original did it without any such shenanigans? Come on!

Does she still sing professionally? When she sang that snippet over the phone it was really weaky sounding–maybe she actually needs the Autotune at this point.

Maybe all that plastic surgery included something to stretch out her neck wrinkles and it took out her vocal chords. [/snark]

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-4-episode-bad-reputation-open-spoilers/538399/56 "2010-05-12T06:28:59Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Does she still sing professionally? When she sang that snippet over the phone it was really weaky sounding–maybe she actually needs the Autotune at this point.

No, she’s fine. [This is her](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZYG0Nz2rVA&feature=related)from the recent series SORDID LIVES.

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