# Glee 5/7: Girls and Boys on Film **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 8, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411 "2013-03-08T18:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/1 "2013-03-08T18:58:00Z")
This episode is a good example of both why I still watch this show and why I kind of hate myself for doing so. We had two great movie musical fantasy sequences: a dancing-on-the-wall Fred and Ginger number with Will and Emma and Kurt and Blaine singing [the big love song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCGX4FBJfNc) from my favorite 21st century musical _Moulin Rouge!_ Then there was the rest of the episode, where basically nothing happened. Will and Emma were reunited and Finn confesses to Will about kissing Emma, but aside from that (which I had figured was a given anyway) none of the storylines moved forward at all. Santana discovers Rachel’s positive pregnancy test and the fact that Rachel’s creepy boyfriend has a mysterious side job that results in him carrying suspiciously large amounts of cash, both things that were revealed to the viewer at the end of the last episode. Kurt is kind of dating the English guy who looks like Neil Patrick Harris but still has feelings for Blaine, which was also established in the last episode. And in what is probably the dullest storyline ever to appear on this show, Rachel 2.0 is dating Puck 2.0 but also attracted to Finn 2.0, which AGAIN was established in the last episode – and practically every other episode this season. There was the annual boys vs. girls mashup competition, but this was even more pointless than usual as Will declared it a tie. Also for some reason this group of teenagers, all of whom would have been born in the mid-to-late '90s, are (with the exception of _Moulin Rouge!_) only familiar with movies from the late '70s/early '80s. The episode ends with a big group number, “Footloose”, which was cute and all but seemed totally tacked on. I mean, usually when they close with a big group number it at least matches the emotional tone of what came before. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/2 "2013-03-08T19:15:02Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Rachel 2.0 is dating Puck 2.0 but also attracted to Finn 2.0, which AGAIN was established in the last episode At least she hasn’t passed out from stupidity inspired anorexia for a while. Santana’s actions as roommate: Oh, HELL no. Go through my pockets and my belongings while you’re living in my place rent free and you can go sleep under a crack house for all I care but you ain’t staying here. No way would they put up with that. (Plus how big is that apartment and how many people does it sleep? Did they bring in some bunkbeds for when they have a few extra people move in?) I’ll be very disappointed if Brody is selling drugs- too easy. He’ll probably be gigolo-ing for attractive and successful women, which is far less realistic than if he was gay-for-pay, but that wouldn’t fly on TV. The dancing-on-the-ceiling video was really well done, and I sometimes the think the show, hit though it is, must be holding Jayma Mays back. Her Ginger Supremacist parents are always fun, and ginger Artie is kind of cute. Most of the rest I ffwd through. I think if they could have a big Pay Per View episode with full-on nudity allowed. Everybody but Sue and Figgins and Rachel 2.0’s mom gets naked and dances, and Ryan Murphy and the actors could all make enough to retire and go away and the world would be a better place and the crops and the economy would be in full bloom again. I’m surprised none of the actors have done big screen nudity yet(especially Chord Overstreet, Naya Rivera, and Darren Criss) because there have to have been offers. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/3 "2013-03-08T19:27:39Z")
Brody is for sure a prostitute - only question is for men or women (or both?). Of course, then Rachel will have to be tested for STD’s. As much as I used to really like this show, it is only out of habit that I watch now. Same old, same old week after week…and it is starting to become more “old” than “same”. The choir doesn’t have two nickels to rub together, but always seems to have sets and costumes that would put a Broadway production to shame. But we could nitpick forever…just remove ALL costumes, have them only appear in underwear the rest of the season and I think the ratings would zoom back up there. And you know what, Mr. Shue…I really don’t give a damn if you ever get married or not - how about getting a life first. How many times can you ask for the same damn “mash up” and write one dumb word on the board and try to be original. Any music teacher doing that more than once would be fired. And I guess our transexual is now just the new version of Mercedes and that is that, huh? Hmm…I seem to be Mr. Grumpy today, so I will stop now. ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/4 "2013-03-08T19:45:56Z")
Yeah, this was one of those episodes where much of my response essentially boiled down to “Yes, and?” I mean, it was fun to watch, for the most part (especially Santana going stir-crazy and trying to start trouble), but nothing happened in it. It didn’t even have the advantage of being a plot-light musical extravaganza like “Nationals” because the music, while mostly good, didn’t exactly blow me away. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/5 "2013-03-08T20:04:20Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > The choir doesn’t have two nickels to rub together, but always seems to have sets and costumes that would put a Broadway production to shame. That annoyed me at first but now I just figure that those fancy song & dance numbers are all in their imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/6 "2013-03-08T20:07:44Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > At least she hasn’t passed out from stupidity inspired anorexia for a while. Although if she had passed out at the end of the “Sparkling Diamonds” medley from _Moulin Rouge!_, it would have been in line with what happened in the actual movie. Speaking of Rachel 2.0’s level of intelligence, I will somewhat defend her failure to notice that her costume was being altered overnight. Pretty much every teenage girl already thinks she’s too fat, so it probably would be easy to play upon those fears. However, in this episode she really did seem like a moron. Quinn 2.0 freely admits that she’s been playing psycho head games with her all year…and somehow this inspires Rachel 2.0 to confess her secret about kissing Finn 2.0. Quinn 2.0 is shown crossing her fingers behind her back just to make it clear that she can’t be trusted, but nothing comes of this and presumably never will since Rachel 2.0 tells Puck 2.0 about the kiss anyway. So that was all an even bigger waste of time than scenes with the 2.0s usually are. > [@](#): > > I’ll be very disappointed if Brody is selling drugs- too easy. He’ll probably be gigolo-ing for attractive and successful women, which is far less realistic than if he was gay-for-pay, but that wouldn’t fly on TV. If a college guy mysteriously has a lot of cash then drug dealer would normally be a more likely explanation than prostitute, so Santana’s theory makes sense, but the editing in the last episode did strongly suggest that this is not the case. IIRC Rachel asked him if he’d been with anyone else while she was gone, he said no, and then he was shown leaving a fancy apartment with a wad of bills. So I think a performance of “Just a Gigolo” is on the horizon. > [@](#): > > I think if they could have a big Pay Per View episode with full-on nudity allowed. Everybody but Sue and Figgins and Rachel 2.0’s mom gets naked and dances Although she’s about my mother’s age I think Jane Lynch is kind of hot…when she’s not being Sue. Sue is too scary. > [@DMark](#): > > And I guess our transexual is now just the new version of Mercedes and that is that, huh? On the whole it’s probably better for the transgender community that Unique just be a background character who mostly shows up just to sing; the odds that _Glee_ would deal with a serious Unique storyline in a sensitive or even coherent manner are pretty low. I’m still angry about how badly they handled Santana’s coming out last season. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/7 "2013-03-09T00:33:12Z")
Donny Most had the best line this show’s had in a long time, about how no one at the school even thinks about where they’re going to college until two weeks before graduation. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/8 "2013-03-09T02:45:11Z")
We also got another great moment in teaching from Will. Last time he was devoting a whole class period to talking about the bald eagle, and was only too happy to be interrupted by a student who wanted to serenade his girlfriend. This time he was saying something like “Next week we’ll be watching the \*Spielberg \*movie about Lincoln!” ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/9 "2013-03-09T03:24:55Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > We also got another great moment in teaching from Will. Last time he was devoting a whole class period to talking about the bald eagle, and was only too happy to be interrupted by a student who wanted to serenade his girlfriend. This time he was saying something like “Next week we’ll be watching the \*Spielberg \*movie about Lincoln!” I think one of the in-jokes is that Will is a horrible teacher (though that could have been your point ;)). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/10 "2013-03-09T03:27:26Z")
It’s fascinating how this high school Spanish teacher manages to involve the students in his afterschool club in every aspect of his life, including his wedding and serenading his former fiancee (and didn’t they all come over to his apartment to help decorate his tree?). ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/11 "2013-03-09T03:59:00Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > It’s fascinating how this high school Spanish teacher manages to involve the students in his afterschool club in every aspect of his life, including his wedding and serenading his former fiancee (and didn’t they all come over to his apartment to help decorate his tree?). While I suspect there’s little chance of the show ever acknowledging this, Will has been setting himself up for some situation like the Finn kissing Emma thing for years. If you’re an adult who consistently involves a bunch of teenagers in your personal life and has an 18-19 year old former student as your best (and only?) friend then sooner or later something messed up is going to happen. What’s really surprising is that this hasn’t blown up in his face more often. For instance, back in season two he chose _The Rocky Horror Show_ as the school musical two years back as part of a ploy to seduce Emma away from the guy she was dating at the time, then kicked Sam out of the show (contributing to his body image issues) to play Rocky himself…which would have involved not only dancing around onstage nearly nude with his underage students, but performing a love scene with a student who he knew once had a crush on him. ---
**Author:** ![kaemicha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@kaemicha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaemicha)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/12 "2013-03-10T23:25:50Z")
I haven’t watched Glee, much this season, but thanks to my 'tween neighbors, I am up to date on the plot line…ok, there’s never much of a plot line, but still-there is a story. I did watch it this last week, with the show tunes, and I was captivated. I can’t imagine how these actors can pull it out every week with all the energetic and intricate dancing and singing. I was surprised to find out that I still like this show. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/13 "2013-03-12T00:35:50Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > It’s fascinating how this high school Spanish teacher manages to involve the students in his afterschool club in every aspect of his life, including his wedding and serenading his former fiancee (and didn’t they all come over to his apartment to help decorate his tree?). He’s not the spanish teacher anymore, he traded jobs or something so someone who actually knows spanish could teach it or something. I forget the details. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/14 "2013-03-12T01:47:09Z")
[QUOTE=TBG] I forget the details. [/QUOTE] Which is the best way to watch _Glee_. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/15 "2013-03-12T15:08:41Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > He’s not the spanish teacher anymore, he traded jobs or something so someone who actually knows spanish could teach it or something. I forget the details. Ricky Martin, I think. I think Glee should cut bait and just transition 100% to NYC. I think Brody is a stripper. I don’t know if strippers need pagers, but logical consistency is not a requirement for Glee. I don’t think Glee has the balls go full-on sex-for-money on a TV show like that. Stripper is sufficiently ‘racy’ and ‘scandalous’ without the legal, moral, or ethical minefield. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/16 "2013-03-12T23:32:46Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I think Brody is a stripper. I don’t know if strippers need pagers, but logical consistency is not a requirement for Glee. I don’t think Glee has the balls go full-on sex-for-money on a TV show like that. Stripper is sufficiently ‘racy’ and ‘scandalous’ without the legal, moral, or ethical minefield. Based on the information we have I guess he could be a stripper who does private parties, but I hope that’s not the direction they’re going just because we’ve already had a “good-looking guy is secretly earning money as a stripper” storyline with Sam last season. I wouldn’t put it past them to recycle yet another storyline (a good chunk of this season seems to be a remix of season one plots), but I hope they come up with something more original. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/17 "2013-03-12T23:49:03Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I think Glee should cut bait and just transition 100% to NYC. Then I’d probably stop watching. But on the plus side, then I would probably stop watching. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-7-girls-and-boys-on-film/652411/18 "2013-03-13T13:49:29Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I think Glee should cut bait and just transition 100% to NYC. Agreed. The two plotlines are annoying. Plus I can’t stand any of the new characters, who are simply the old characters re-hashed.