# Glee 5/8: Promasaurus **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 8, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337 "2012-05-08T23:53:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337/21 "2012-05-10T11:47:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I thought Finn’s level of outrage at Quinn was unwarranted. It’s not like she was faking being a wheelchair- she still completely needs it, it’s just that due to therapy she can, with great effort, walk a few paces. As for choosing that to reveal upon winning, again, it’s not like she was going to claim Jesus just healed her, it was basically for dramatic effect, something that he should know all about being involved with Rachel and all. On a list of sins with “telling him you’re pregnant with his baby even though you’ve never had sex” being a **D-** , I’d put this omission at, maybe, a **B**. If that. To me, it’s not that she was hiding it. I think everyone would have been generally okay with that, if it really had purely been for dramatic effect. It was that she was using it to get prom queen votes. Her speech in the hallway to that random girl about how she was jealous of her “fully functional legs” and how sad she was that she may “never walk again” showed that she saw her “paralysis” as an asset in her campaign. It speaks of manipulativeness and dishonesty, traits that Quinn was known for much more in season one, late season two, and early season three. It’s a sign that she’s regressing back to her old ways at a time when everyone thought that she was getting better. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337/22 "2012-05-10T16:03:32Z")
Wow, that 4th Glee Project winner didn’t get to do anything. Hopefully they were just introducing her for the next season, otherwise what a huge rip-off. Speaking of huge rip-offs: > [@](#): > > We’re supposed to find it heartwarming that 1) Santana and Quinn fixed the prom queen election to prevent the girl who actually should have won (after they both forfeited) from being crowned Yes, that was all kinds douche-y. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337/23 "2012-05-10T16:24:17Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Tonight is the senior prom at McKinley High. This is apparently much less of a deal to the New Directions students than was their junior prom, as it’s barely been mentioned while we had week after week of campaigning for junior prom queen last season. Also note that none of the juniors were interested at all in this year’s junior prom, although I think the only female junior in the group is Tina, who was going to the senior prom with Mike. I was half-expecting Figgins to cancel junior prom after what had happened the previous year. > [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > It’s not just that her inner voice is British, it’s that it’s [Helen Freakin’ Mirren](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000545/). The first time, it definitely was. This time, there is some question as to whether it is Mirren or somebody doing a Mirren impression. Since Mirren wasn’t credited the first time, the lack of a credit doesn’t seem to give any answer. > [@Loopus](#): > > Rachel “winning” prom queen was ridiculous. They really wanted that to feel like a big moment, but to feel like that it has to be _believable_. I was expecting a continued stunned silence more than applause from the other kids. > > And I agree with **amaguri** , “Dinosaur” was one of the worst numbers the show has ever done. Rachel winning came out of left field, until the minute where Quinn said that her win didn’t really feel right. (At first, I thought they might give it to Becky, as I thought I saw her wearing a crown in one of the commercials, but it must have been the “anti-prom crown”, especially as the prom queen wears a tiara - but when Finn was the most likely prom king, Rachel was the obvious choice for “replacement queen”.) As for “Dinosaur,” it was obviously meant as a dance number for Heather Morris, who wasn’t hired for her singing ability, so they needed something that (a) fit the theme and (b) she could “sing”. It also doesn’t hurt that the choreographers who decide who gets Emmy nominations in choreography (yes, it’s a category) tend to prefer solo or duet numbers to “group” routines, and yes, I do remember there were six “backup dancers” in dinosaur heads (and, unlike on _Smash_, the _Glee_ “dancers” never get credited). > [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > Wow, that 4th Glee Project winner didn’t get to do anything. Hopefully they were just introducing her for the next season, otherwise what a huge rip-off. Who was the “fourth Glee Project winner”? Lindsay Pearce? She performed twice, didn’t she (“Anything Goes” at that “NYADA hopefuls group” Rachel and Kurt attended, and again at Sectionals)? She also said that she was a sophomore, if as she was telling the audience that she might be transferring to McKinley for Season 4. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337/24 "2012-05-10T17:42:42Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Who was the “fourth Glee Project winner”? Lindsay Pearce? She performed twice, didn’t she (“Anything Goes” at that “NYADA hopefuls group” Rachel and Kurt attended, and again at Sectionals)? She also said that she was a sophomore, if as she was telling the audience that she might be transferring to McKinley for Season 4. Ohhh, I didn’t recognize her. ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337/25 "2012-05-10T22:33:37Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > As for “Dinosaur,” it was obviously meant as a dance number for Heather Morris, who wasn’t hired for her singing ability, so they needed something that (a) fit the theme and (b) she could “sing”. It also doesn’t hurt that the choreographers who decide who gets Emmy nominations in choreography (yes, it’s a category) tend to prefer solo or duet numbers to “group” routines, and yes, I do remember there were six “backup dancers” in dinosaur heads (and, unlike on _Smash_, the _Glee_ “dancers” never get credited). You’re right, of course, and the dancing was very good. Still, the tone and lyrics of the song are so far out there for a prom setting that I couldn’t get past it. And there are good ways of featuring Heather’s dance moves: see the performance of “Dance With Somebody” in the episode of the same name. > [@](#): > > Who was the “fourth Glee Project winner”? Lindsay Pearce? She performed twice, didn’t she (“Anything Goes” at that “NYADA hopefuls group” Rachel and Kurt attended, and again at Sectionals)? She also said that she was a sophomore, if as she was telling the audience that she might be transferring to McKinley for Season 4. Off topic, but I thought that Lindsay Pearce had by far the most star power of any of the Glee Project winners, and I actually would like to see her come back. Alex Newell’s (Wade/Unique) performace of “Boogie Shoes” was also quite good, but Damian McGinty (Rory) and Samuel Larsen (Joe) have been merely adequate all season. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337/26 "2012-05-10T23:50:33Z")
They totally missed the chance to have New Directions sing the Screaming Blue Messiahs’ “I Wanna Be a Flintstone”. I did like Brittany’s Wilma dress very much though, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337/27 "2012-05-11T00:58:58Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I thought Finn’s level of outrage at Quinn was unwarranted. It’s not like she was faking being a wheelchair- she still completely needs it, it’s just that due to therapy she can, with great effort, walk a few paces. As for choosing that to reveal upon winning, again, it’s not like she was going to claim Jesus just healed her, it was basically for dramatic effect, something that he should know all about being involved with Rachel and all. On a list of sins with “telling him you’re pregnant with his baby even though you’ve never had sex” being a **D-** , I’d put this omission at, maybe, a **B**. If that. As \*\*Loopus \*\*said, this makes more sense if we take Quinn’s sin to be exaggerating the severity of her disability in order to win pity votes…but if that was the writers’ intention, they did a pretty poor job of conveying it. What Finn actually said and did – particularly in that unpleasant scene where he started yelling at Quinn in the middle of prom to stand up and walk – indicated that he was in fact angry about Quinn’s failure to reveal that she could take a wobbly step or two. I also thought it was odd that Finn apparently believed that Quinn standing up would turn the crowd against her and cost her the crown. Since she was still obviously shaky, I would assume that the other kids would think “Wow, Quinn just managed to stand up for the first time since her accident!” and be even more likely to vote for her. And if we were supposed to find it heartwarming that Rachel was named Prom Queen and was finally the center of (unearned) attention at McKinley, it seems strange that we were also apparently supposed to find it admirable that Quinn choose the Prom King and Queen’s big dance as the moment to publicly show off her regained ability to stand. It struck me more as the sort of thing Quinn would only do if she were trying to steal the spotlight back from Rachel, but the show didn’t portray it that way. > [@Loopus](#): > > Off topic, but I thought that Lindsay Pearce had by far the most star power of any of the Glee Project winners, and I actually would like to see her come back. > > Alex Newell’s (Wade/Unique) performace of “Boogie Shoes” was also quite good, but Damian McGinty (Rory) and Samuel Larsen (Joe) have been merely adequate all season. I saw most of _The Glee Project_, and it really seemed like McGinty and Larsen won largely for being cute, and in McGinty’s case also because he was pleasant and easy to get along. They’re both pretty good singers, but I don’t know that they were really better than the other contestants. As is perhaps obvious by now, there was no acting component to _The Glee Project_, and the roles of all the winners have probably been limited by their lack of experience/skill in that area. I think I mentioned this in a previous thread, but with most of the season now behind us I think Pearce and Newell actually lucked out when they were named runners-up on _The Glee Project_ instead of winners. While McGinty and Larsen must be making more money for appearing on multiple episodes of _Glee_, I don’t think hanging around in the background and doing little of significance on the show is going to be much of a boost to their careers. Pearce and Newell came on, did a couple of good musical numbers, and are now free to pursue other things. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-5-8-promasaurus/621337.md?page=1)