# Glee on FOX **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540 "2009-09-10T10:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/81 "2009-09-24T14:51:06Z")
I usually watch online the day after because I work Wed. nights but we were slow so I turned it on. My two coworkers started watching and were laughing at pretty much everything, especially Sue. I had to explain some of what had happened previously during commercials but we may have a couple new Gleeks. Highlights of this show, Tina finally getting to sing, she’s good! And Kurt’s dad turning out to know about him and being okay with it. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/82 "2009-09-24T15:33:39Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > Next week: Kristin Chenoweth! Coals to Newcastle. This just makes me giggle like a ninny. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/83 "2009-09-24T15:34:30Z")
Yes we cane! ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/84 "2009-09-24T16:46:34Z")
“Every time she storms out of practice lit loses it’s effect.” I also liked the “I slept withyour mom” bit. And Sue was the best. Probably the best episode to date, although I did feel bad for the quarterback. I’m noticing that half the characters are just plain bad people. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/85 "2009-09-24T16:53:47Z")
Puck offers to support Quinn and their baby with the proceeds of his pool-cleaning business. She reminds them they live in Ohio. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/86 "2009-09-24T16:55:41Z")
I’m actually starting to not hate Quinn. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/87 "2009-09-24T17:06:14Z")
> [@lisacurl](#): > > I think you are really Not Getting This Show. I do get the show. And I love it. But having fantasy sequences is verging on changing the premise. The first few episodes were fine without a fantasy sequence. And honestly I can live with a fantasy sequence ever other episode or so. But if they ever spontaneously burst into song and it’s not in somebody’s head it _will_ be drastically changing the premise. That said, this episode seems to be getting back to the stuff Glee does well and that I loved in the first episode. And the football dancing sequence was spectacularly enjoyable! ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/88 "2009-09-24T17:21:27Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > That football routine was hilarious. Though, it probably would have been a false start penalty as the linemen were all in their set positions (and that’s the first thing that actually came to mind) ;). A few players stepped in front of the ball before it was snapped, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/89 "2009-09-24T17:28:57Z")
I’ve only watched the last two episodes, so maybe there’s something I am missing about Kurt’s relationship with his dad. If his dad already knows Kurt is gay and is trying to be cool about it, why did he take away the car when he found Kurt’s tiara collection? I thought they were setting up a more difficult relationship where coming out would be a lot more fraught. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/90 "2009-09-24T17:31:07Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > I think all their songs are “fake”, in that they’ve sang them earlier and then are lip syncing them while filming scenes for the show (in that its probably incredibly hard to sing them while filming, what with all the takes and what not). Has any show ever done it differently? (Among the ones that use real voices, of course.) You generally don’t want to hear the voices without a lot of stuff done to them. Stuff they couldn’t do with the sound equipment used in filming. As for the show, I’m loving it. Even the lackluster third episode. I do admit that “in their head” sequences are a little annoying. But I don’t mind them if at least one person is supposed to be really singing, like at the end of episode three. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/91 "2009-09-24T17:32:37Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > I’ve only watched the last two episodes, so maybe there’s something I am missing about Kurt’s relationship with his dad. If his dad already knows Kurt is gay and is trying to be cool about it, why did he take away the car when he found Kurt’s tiara collection? I thought they were setting up a more difficult relationship where coming out would be a lot more fraught. And why the bit in the basement where they lie about Kurt’s outfit and Kurt’s dad asks which cheerleader he’s dating. Even if Kurt’s dad respected that Kurt would admit to being gay in his own time, why try to pressure your son into a lie to cover for it? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/92 "2009-09-24T17:51:34Z")
Well remember the Dad did ask “Are you sure”. So maybe he was hoping that Kurt was going to become straight. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/93 "2009-09-24T17:57:01Z")
Yeah but combined with the car punishment it comes across sounding like his dad was punishing him for being in the closet. Nothing that’ll make me hate the show but it just seems poorly planned or executed. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/94 "2009-09-24T18:02:16Z")
Or maybe he was hoping that Kurt would just come out with it already. [Executive producer Ryan Murphy says that Kurt’s coming-out scene is verbatim from his own](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/09/glee-creator-and-executive-producer-ryan-murphy-discovered-chris-colfer-but-dont-tell-the-young-actor-that-it-makes-him-feel.html). ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/95 "2009-09-24T18:38:54Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > That football routine was hilarious. Though, it probably would have been a false start penalty as the linemen were all in their set positions (and that’s the first thing that actually came to mind) ;). Actually, the thing that I found most unbelievable was that they were only down by six points at the end of the game. But yeah, I told my wife “They’d never get away with that in a real game.” ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/96 "2009-09-24T19:07:36Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > Or maybe he was hoping that Kurt would just come out with it already. Taking away his car in hopes that he’ll come out with it doesn’t sound significantly different than punishing him for being in the closet. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/97 "2009-09-24T21:30:30Z")
Ok, listen I dunno. I’m really uncomfortable about the whole “we’re really sensitive about Kurt’s character - HAHAHA look how GAY Kurt is!” thing. GAH! And for anyone saying “how could you not know he’s gay?” Because there are people who are very effeminate and NOT GAY. Sorry to rain on your parade, so to speak. And I agree - If the dad _knew_ he was gay all this time - why didn’t he SAY something? It’s not 1950 for crying out loud…there have been a million opportunities to bring it up…George Michael? Gay marriage discussions? Toe tapping? Yadda yadda yadda? Even to say “Well if one of my kids was gay I’d like to find out about it before it showed up on the news” or “if my kids were gay they’d still be my kids and I love and support them, no matter what…” I don’t get it. That’s just me, but I don’t have kids, so there ya go. I mean I have personal issues I don’t want to get into, but this show is getting really hard to watch for me… And yet I love it more than life itself! This episode was so so so so good. And an hilarious FYI from Newsweek: [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thehumancondition/archive/2009/09/24/attention-\_2700\_glee\_2700\_-fans-a-hot-tub-cannot-get-you-pregnant.aspx](http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thehumancondition/archive/2009/09/24/attention-_2700_glee_2700_-fans-a-hot-tub-cannot-get-you-pregnant.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/98 "2009-09-24T22:20:06Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > I’m actually starting to not hate Quinn. I’m hating her more than ever. She’s really going to stick Finn with this bogus paternity? That’s just evil, esp. since she’s being the chastity queen with him while fucking his best friend. Not cool at all. Also, I do not understand how this Quinn/Terri baby swap is going to work. Terri is claiming to be 4 months pregnant, and Quinn is less than a month along… the timing is just not right. How many of the women on this show have to have issues with lying about their pregnancies? That whole story line bugs me. Do not like. ---
**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/99 "2009-09-24T22:23:35Z")
In defense of Glee, I could definitely understand the father doing everything in his power to try to encourage Kurt to have manly hobbies and eschew tiara collections and dancing in hopes that _maybe_ he’s misread his son. Denial is powerful. But once confronted with Kurt actually telling him, “Hey look, I’m gay.” it seems to have snapped him out of said denial and reinforced all of those earlier behaviors, like requesting sensible heels for his birthday. 🙂 Also, I don’t believe Quinn was a victim of date-rape. She does state that she had a few wine coolers, but then ads that she was “feeling fat that day” and that it was a mistake. It sounds consensual but regretted to me. Best line: _I’ll often yell at homeless people: ‘Hey, how is that homelessness working out for you? Try not being homeless for once.’_ ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540/100 "2009-09-24T23:47:27Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Also, I do not understand how this Quinn/Terri baby swap is going to work. Terri is claiming to be 4 months pregnant, and Quinn is less than a month along… the timing is just not right. How many of the women on this show have to have issues with lying about their pregnancies? That whole story line bugs me. Do not like. Who says that it;s going to work? I’d bet good money on it not working out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-on-fox/509540.md?page=6)