# GLEE season premiere **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595 "2010-09-22T00:28:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/61 "2010-09-23T14:45:38Z")
> [@Leiko](#): > > I know I’m coming from a slash fandom perspective (a good chunk of middle school was taken up by Sirius/Remus and Percy/Oliver fic), but I feel like Finn often has better chemistry, including romantic chemistry, with men than with women. He does have a complicated relationship with Kurt (common-law stepbrother crush? Does Emma have a pamphlet about that?) If anyone pings my (albeit barely functional 'dar), it’s Puck. > [@Sampiro](#): > > To me he always looks like he’s on the verge of tears, though I don’t know if that’s the actor or the character. He’s working on that Emmy nom-it worked for Matthew Morrison and Chris Colfer! 😉 Well, wait a minute, ISTR him bawling when he told Schue Quinn was pregnant and his life was ruined… keep at it son, it’ll work one of these days ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/62 "2010-09-23T14:49:18Z")
[QUOTE=Annie] He’s working on that Emmy nom-it worked for Matthew Morrison and Chris Colfer! 😉 Well, wait a minute, ISTR him bawling when he told Schue Quinn was pregnant and his life was ruined… keep at it son, it’ll work one of these days [/QUOTE] Maybe this season they’ll find out Rachel’s pregnant AND he can’t read in the same episode- lots of tears all around. I keep expecting his mom to confess that he’s illegitimate and the dad he never knew who died in service is made up. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/63 "2010-09-23T14:53:58Z")
oops ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/64 "2010-09-23T16:07:26Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > That was Cheyenne Jackson (Broadway star and recurring actor on 30 Rock) who played the new star of Vocal Adrenoline- he’s going to be a recurring character so I’m pretty sure Sunshine will as well. I thought he introduced himself as the new \*coach \*of VA. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/65 "2010-09-23T18:29:07Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I thought he introduced himself as the new \*coach \*of VA. He did. Guess Shelby’s off being mommy. A bit of a scattershot episode… I wasn’t thrilled with any of the songs. They did them well enough, I suppose, but they didn’t knock my socks off. So many little plot threads that none of them got developed real well. I did like the addition of Bieste (are my wife and I the only ones who at first thought that Coach Tanaka had a sex change over the summer?) though I would’ve have preferred to see Sue and Will with a common enemy for a bit longer before it went back to Sue vs. Will. Loved seeing Sue get a taste of her own non-sequitur medicine. (“That doesn’t make sense.”) Lots of good one-liners as usual, especially Britney lost in the sewers. Sad to see Matt go without ever really having a role to speak of. But at least “Other Asian” is getting some lines. (Poor Artie, but he was kind of a bad boyfriend. “woman” ?) What’s with all these transfer and foreign exchange students? Aren’t there any freshmen to recruit? I miss Emma. Next week looks great, though. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/66 "2010-09-23T18:45:18Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > He won’t answer whether he’s going to be Kurt’s love interest, though he does say he himself is straight. I haven’t seen this episode yet, though I am well and truly spoiled and don’t care. However, EW [reported](http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/09/20/glee-kurt-boyfriend-armchair-casting/) Monday that " casting call went out late last week for the recurring role of a cute, charismatic, GAY high school junior who fronts a competing glee club," and presumably this character is Kurt’s interest. I do remember hearing that he _wouldn’t_ be a student at McKinley. Of course, it could just be a dodge and this “Chord Overstreet” (again, haven’t seen it) could be the bona fide – or maybe there will be competition for Kurt’s attention! ---
**Author:** ![satoridt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@satoridt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satoridt)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/67 "2010-09-23T19:09:44Z")
My girlfriend is Philipino and she was extremely excited for Charice. All her friends were. She actually dragged me to go see Charice in a show earlier this year. We got backstage and I met her, she’s nice. According to my gf, Charice will be a reoccurring character. She’s been following this pretty closely so I take my info from her. Take it for what its worth. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/68 "2010-09-23T19:15:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > > [@Sampiro](#): > > > > That was Cheyenne Jackson (Broadway star and recurring actor on 30 Rock) who played the new star of Vocal Adrenoline- he’s going to be a recurring character so I’m pretty sure Sunshine will as well. > > I thought he introduced himself as the new \*coach \*of VA. Sorry, wrong word use. I always assumed Tina was somehow related to Mike since they’re both named Chang (Mike Chang & Tina Cohen-Chang). I guess not. I wonder if they were supposed to be relatives but the writers changed their minds. Granted, Chang isn’t an unusual Chinese surname, but I would guess it’s a really unusual Lima, Ohio surname. ---
**Author:** ![ptr2void](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ptr2void/32/3406_2.png) [@ptr2void](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ptr2void)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/69 "2010-09-23T20:25:07Z")
I swear that when I first caught a glimpse of Coach Biest on screen, I thought it was Coach Tanaka in drag. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/70 "2010-09-23T20:45:08Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > A nitpick, but I don’t think Puck would be legally able to get a vaesectomy since > > [snip] > 2- He doesn’t have a child (well, technically he does, but it was adopted at birth- some states have laws that a man can’t have a vaesectomy until he has had a child UNLESS he or his wife carries the genes for a debilitating illness or his wife’s health would be compromised by pregnancy) Huh? So much for “my body my choice”. Do you have a cite for this, because it sounds really strange. The thing about him being a minor makes sense, though. > [@ptr2void](#): > > I swear that when I first caught a glimpse of Coach Biest on screen, I thought it was Coach Tanaka in drag. I thought Biest was gonna turn out to be Ken with a sex change for a second. And the new kid can’t be Kurt’s love interest, he doesn’t put balls in his mouth. 😛 Finally, did the writers just forget after the beginning of the second half of last season that Finn’s also on the basketball team? They only really brought it up once, and now he’s all “I’m nothing but a glee club geek now”. Sure it’s not basketball season now, but it still doesn’t make sense for him to forget that he’s on that team, unless the writers also forgot. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/71 "2010-09-23T20:48:04Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Poor Artie. Indeed, that was painful. Tina seemed like the only person he really connected with. That and I thought her reasons for breaking up, though understandable, just highlighted the issues he has with his disability. > [@Sampiro](#): > > Was Emma on the show last night? Nothing personal against the actress but I wouldn’t mind her character being scrapped. **BLASPHEMY!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/72 "2010-09-23T20:55:38Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > (are my wife and I the only ones who at first thought that Coach Tanaka had a sex change over the summer?) > [@ptr2void](#): > > I swear that when I first caught a glimpse of Coach Biest on screen, I thought it was Coach Tanaka in drag. I was firmly in this camp too, until checking out IMDB. Even told my wife my suspicions. Oh well, not the first time I’ve been wrong in front of her… ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/73 "2010-09-23T21:02:35Z")
> [@ptr2void](#): > > I swear that when I first caught a glimpse of Coach Biest on screen, I thought it was Coach Tanaka in drag. I didn’t think it was Tanaka, but I \*did \*think it was a man in drag. [Nope](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1555602688/nm0427963). (She’s actually quite pretty - the costume and makeup people on Glee really uglify her for the role.) ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/74 "2010-09-23T22:17:46Z")
> [@Annie](#): > > …He does have a complicated relationship with Kurt (common-law stepbrother crush? Does Emma have a pamphlet about that?) If anyone pings my (albeit barely functional 'dar), it’s Puck… I kinda wish the writers would make either Finn or Puck _bisexual_; it’d open up a bunch of potential scenarios and allow for some really complicated love triangles (or love squares or circles). > [@Sampiro](#): > > …I keep expecting his mom to confess that he’s illegitimate and the dad he never knew who died in service is made up. Didn’t he mention last season that his father died in the _Gulf War_? :dubious: Seeing as how he’s only supposed to be 16/17 that’s either a big goof on the writer’s part, or a potential plot point (like Finn realizes when the Gulf War actually ended). ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/75 "2010-09-23T22:22:51Z")
I hate the synthethic sound of the songs on “Glee.” It’s like listening to Katy Perry for an hour. And that’s not a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/76 "2010-09-23T22:42:50Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Didn’t he mention last season that his father died in the _Gulf War_? :dubious: Seeing as how he’s only supposed to be 16/17 that’s either a big goof on the writer’s part, or a potential plot point (like Finn realizes when the Gulf War actually ended). Maybe Finn’s dad was killed in action in Somalia? ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/77 "2010-09-23T23:05:25Z")
I’m impressed by Will’s ability to not quit (Yes, I know it’s scripted etc). If I were in his position I would have given up a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/78 "2010-09-23T23:09:45Z")
So does Will still teach Spanish by day? ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/79 "2010-09-23T23:10:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So does Will still teach Spanish by day? Wait…they have \*classes \*at this school? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/80 "2010-09-24T03:26:33Z")
Did anybody else think Rachel has had some lip work done? She had this awful trout pout thing going on during her song… urgh. Also, too thin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595.md?page=5)