# GLEE season premiere **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595 "2010-09-22T00:28:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/81 "2010-09-24T04:22:47Z")
Not loving the bangs, but she didn’t seem too thin. Only watched it once though, and was really distracted by bang dislike to notice anything else. If John Barrowman ever shows up on this show, he’s going to play Kurt’s real dad. They look and act way too similar for this to not happen. Make it so! ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/82 "2010-09-24T09:48:52Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Did anybody else think Rachel has had some lip work done? She had this awful trout pout thing going on during her song… urgh. Also, too thin. Yes, I thought the same thing. It was like a giant caterpillar was crawling around just under her nose. YUCK. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/83 "2010-09-24T22:57:52Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Didn’t he mention last season that his father died in the _Gulf War_? :dubious: Seeing as how he’s only supposed to be 16/17 that’s either a big goof on the writer’s part, or a potential plot point (like Finn realizes when the Gulf War actually ended). > **[Finn Hudson](https://glee.fandom.com/wiki/Finn_Hudson)** > > Finn Christopher Hudson is a major character on Glee. He was an alumnus of William McKinley High School, former co-captain of the New Directions, and former quarterback of the Titans. Finn's character was set up to be the main long term love interest... says he died in Desert Storm, so yeah, the timeline is quite fishy. I’d suggest that Finn just got held back a few times and is 20, but I’m pretty sure they said something about him being 16, and that’s what the profile on the page says. Probably just some writer goofed and thought the Gulf War was later than it was. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/84 "2010-09-24T23:18:28Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > > [@alphaboi867](#): > > > > Didn’t he mention last season that his father died in the _Gulf War_? :dubious: Seeing as how he’s only supposed to be 16/17 that’s either a big goof on the writer’s part, or a potential plot point (like Finn realizes when the Gulf War actually ended). > > [Finn Hudson | Glee Wiki | Fandom](http://glee.wikia.com/wiki/Finn_Hudson) > > says he died in Desert Storm, so yeah, the timeline is quite fishy. I’d suggest that Finn just got held back a few times and is 20, but I’m pretty sure they said something about him being 16, and that’s what the profile on the page says. > > Probably just some writer goofed and thought the Gulf War was later than it was. Perhaps it’s been edited since your post: The current version of the relevant line reads “Finn’s father died while on army duties in the Middle East, so his mother raised him doing the best she could.” ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/85 "2010-09-25T00:36:45Z")
I actually enjoyed Telephone. Tbh, Rachael seems to have AGED over the last year. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/86 "2010-09-25T01:00:36Z")
> [@Leiko](#): > > > [@TBG](#): > > > > [Finn Hudson | Glee Wiki | Fandom](http://glee.wikia.com/wiki/Finn_Hudson) > > > > says he died in Desert Storm, so yeah, the timeline is quite fishy. I’d suggest that Finn just got held back a few times and is 20, but I’m pretty sure they said something about him being 16, and that’s what the profile on the page says. > > > > Probably just some writer goofed and thought the Gulf War was later than it was. > > Perhaps it’s been edited since your post: The current version of the relevant line reads “Finn’s father died while on army duties in the Middle East, so his mother raised him doing the best she could.” It does say that but it also says, “It is revealed that Finn is the son of single mother, as his father was killed in Operation Desert Storm when he was very young.” ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/87 "2010-09-25T19:22:04Z")
Yeah, you need to read down a little to get the Desert Storm part. ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595/88 "2010-09-27T16:47:54Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > [@Leiko](#): > > > > Perhaps it’s been edited since your post: The current version of the relevant line reads “Finn’s father died while on army duties in the Middle East, so his mother raised him doing the best she could.” > > It does say that but it also says, “It is revealed that Finn is the son of single mother, as his father was killed in Operation Desert Storm when he was very young.” I just watched the first couple episodes again, and yeah, Finn says that his dad died in the First Gulf War, when he was just a little kid. Per Wiki, that war ended in February 1991, which would put Finn at a minimum of age 19 in 2010. However, last season he said he was 16. Also, he gives Quinn his old blanket, which he says was his last gift from his father, that he carried it around everywhere etc. I’m thinking that means he was 2 or 3 then when his father died, putting him at 21 or 22 in 2010. Definitely a goof on the writers’ part. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-season-premiere/554595.md?page=4)