# Glen Beck goes Full Galt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 14, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231 "2013-01-14T23:48:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/41 "2013-01-15T02:29:43Z")
And hence the “code red” thingy ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/42 "2013-01-15T02:50:40Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > [Per Right Wing Watch](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/independence-park-be-glenn-becks-galts-gulch): > > Any speculation about what’s going on? Publicity stunt to get some headlines? (Is Beck even a thing anymore post-Fox?) Could a handful of investors really pull this off? What rides do you think the theme park will have? Can’t wait to find out how basic services are doled out! > > Please oh please let this come to fruition! And please oh please, let there be Big Daddies and Little Sisters! Of course, to prove it’s really “self-sustaining,” it would have to be sealed off from the outside world as hermetically as a Biodome (excepting air), or a small-scale North Korea, for at least a year or two. No one enters, no one leaves, no material goods cross the town-line, nothing goes in, nothing comes out, complete autarky. And Beck, if he’s serious about this, would have to **stay** there all that time . . . 🙂 Go, Glen! **Do** it, dude! ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/43 "2013-01-15T02:55:41Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No one enters, no one leaves, Break a deal, face the wheel! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/44 "2013-01-15T03:00:25Z")
_Glengarry Glen Beck_ ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/45 "2013-01-15T03:23:39Z")
When it collapses, maybe they can make tableware. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/46 "2013-01-15T03:38:17Z")
Soylent Glen. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/47 "2013-01-15T03:50:07Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Awesome. Beck seems like a perfect representation of entitled libertarianism (see also: Internet libertarianism), whereby people born into a safe, well-off society complain bitterly about having to contribute in any way and are convinced they could build a far better society from scratch despite not having any real skills. They are usually also of the opinion that being the “ideas guy” is one of the more valuable positions of said Brave New World, since they’ll tell all the know-nothing labor types how many wells to dig or windmills to build. Unfortunately, everyone who shows up will be of similar self-deluded grandiosity and the whole thing will collapse almost immediately. Wow. Way to get it just as ass-backwards as possible. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/48 "2013-01-15T03:51:09Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Wow. Way to get it just as ass-backwards as possible. So, how would **you** characterize a True Randroid colony-town, then? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/49 "2013-01-15T03:54:12Z")
The BESTEST. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/50 "2013-01-15T03:54:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Wow. Way to get it just as ass-backwards as possible. No, you are thinking theory, \*\*Giraffe \*\*is just mentioning what happens in practice. ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/51 "2013-01-15T04:08:04Z")
Isn’t part of the point of “going Galt” that society would cease to function without these people? The only ones who will suffer from a lack of Glenn Beck are the writers for _The Colbert Report._ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/52 "2013-01-15T04:11:10Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > So, how would **you** characterize a True Randroid colony-town, then? Aynal. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/53 "2013-01-15T04:33:46Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Wow. Way to get it just as ass-backwards as possible. Fine. So first the whole thing will collapse, _then_ the grandiose self-deluded idea men with no skills will show up… ---
**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/54 "2013-01-15T04:43:09Z")
Mmm, can’t wait for them to start re-domesticating agricultural animals and grains. And smelting metal. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/55 "2013-01-15T04:49:49Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Wow. Way to get it just as ass-backwards as possible. Yeah, about that, you don’t actually know anything. You’re the ignorance we’re trying to fight. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/56 "2013-01-15T05:16:11Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Wow. Way to get it just as ass-backwards as possible. Alright now I realize I don’t sojourn into all the threads where _this guy_ hangs out - but doesn’t he self identify as one of those types of people described by **Giraffe**? (though not explicitly of course - only through my indirect inference could I draw such unkind and assumptive conclusions) So him calling out **Giraffe** ’s characterization of Beck’s utopia as “ass-backwards” is quite what one would expect; no? Unless **Rand Rover** ’s actually a welder/electrician/plumber/carpenter and he just doesn’t come across that way. Cuz I didn’t know you could be both rich and skilled in manual labor. Kind of a one or the other type of thing… ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/57 "2013-01-15T05:22:21Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Alright now I realize I don’t sojourn into all the threads where _this guy_ hangs out - but doesn’t he self identify as one of those types of people described by **Giraffe**? (though not explicitly of course - only through my indirect inference could I draw such unkind and assumptive conclusions) > > So him calling out **Giraffe** ’s characterization of Beck’s utopia as “ass-backwards” is quite what one would expect; no? > > Unless **Rand Rover** ’s actually a welder/electrician/plumber/carpenter and he just doesn’t come across that way. Cuz I didn’t know you could be both rich and skilled in manual labor. Kind of a one or the other type of thing… Unless I am misremembering, **RR** is a tax lawyer. Yes, yes there is enormous cognitive dissonance happening there. But more importantly, if they managed to truly go Galt, he would have no place there for his chosen career. His primary skillset would not be applicable to the utopia proposed by his name sake. Kind of tragic in a way. He has spent his life ensuring if that dream did come true, he could only watch from the outside. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/58 "2013-01-15T10:27:34Z")
Well, if the literary Galt’s Gulch is any guide, Rand Rover should be eagerly grateful to work for someone else of greater skill. Isn’t this the attitude of Andrew Stockton, a character who sets up a foundry in the Gulch and anticipates that when Henry Rearden gets there, Stockton will gladly work for him “as a cinder sweeper”? As I recall, this was the only example of people in the Gulch with comparable skillsets (and thus the potential for competition). Everyone else had set up their little niche industries, though I recall wondering why Ellis Wyatt was glad to be able to produce 200 barrels a day of shale oil, when the valley could be handily powered by Galt’s static-electricity machine. Anyway, would anyone else anticipating living in Beck’s utopia gladly accept having to do manual labour for somebody of greater skill, and being grateful for the opportunity? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/59 "2013-01-15T12:55:43Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Anyway, would anyone else anticipating living in Beck’s utopia gladly accept having to do manual labour for somebody of greater skill, and being grateful for the opportunity? A lot of people are happy to do manual labor for a living. But I doubt anyone in their right mind would want to do anything for, with, or near Glen Beck. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/60 "2013-01-15T14:10:04Z")
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