# Glen Beck goes Full Galt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 14, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231 "2013-01-14T23:48:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/101 "2013-01-17T00:38:18Z")
> [@Enkel](#): > > I bet they think they’re going to run it all on a Tesla generator. Or better yet, [this](http://www.dgath.com/misc/grid_ball.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/102 "2013-01-17T17:07:50Z")
Rand Rover could be eugenics and insurance coordinator. Course, given the inflated costs that come with insurance (Baumol’s cost sickness), they’d need to have someone set fiscal policy too. Maybe he could just rely on the eugenics side of things. Ever notice anyone save money for retirement in the Galt Gulch? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/103 "2013-01-17T18:59:25Z")
I think a quote from the Objectivist-influenced game Bioshock sums this “utopia” up pretty well: “These sad saps. They come to Rapture thinking they’re gonna be captains of industry, but they all forget that somebody’s gotta scrub the toilets.” ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/104 "2013-01-17T19:08:05Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Or better yet, [this](http://www.dgath.com/misc/grid_ball.jpg). What am I looking at ? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/105 "2013-01-17T19:42:19Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > What am I looking at ? That’s no moon… ---
**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/106 "2013-01-17T19:55:09Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What role do you think you would play in such a society? Probably a tax lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/107 "2013-01-17T21:34:17Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > That’s no moon… Which brings to mind a later quote:Who is the more foolish — the fool, or the fool who follows him?ETA: Just to make it clear, I’m referring not to **Rhythmdvl** , but anyone who might go along with Beck’s cockamamie scheme. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/108 "2013-01-17T22:04:54Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Which brings to mind a later quote:Who is the more foolish — the fool, or the fool who follows him?ETA: Just to make it clear, I’m referring not to **Rhythmdvl** , but anyone who might go along with Beck’s cockamamie scheme. My mom’s in a Retirement Home with a lot of Far-Righties (founder of the local John Birch Society, former Heritage Foundation members, etc.). All richer than God, and most of them are huge Beckophiles. It does make me wonder… (but with their medical issues, maybe that Prinicipity of New Utopia would’ve been a better fit…) ---
**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/109 "2013-01-17T22:10:57Z")
I wish these idiots would “Shrug” already and shut the fuck up about it. The sooner they sequester themselves, the better off everyone else will be. Shrug, you self-proclaimed Atlases. The only burden you carry is the limitless weight of your ignorance and stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/110 "2013-01-17T23:55:41Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > I think a quote from the Objectivist-influenced game Bioshock sums this “utopia” up pretty well: > > “These sad saps. They come to Rapture thinking they’re gonna be captains of industry, but they all forget that somebody’s gotta scrub the toilets.” ^This. The first 7 minute Beck video is basically promoting that people should be willing to walk into the place with the clothes on their back and the pennies in their pockets for the opportunity that is going to be there (translation: don’t all cults require you to turn over all your worldly goods to join?). Beck specifically talks about how Tesla earned his first $20 in America by offering to fix a device for free, then once fixed, the owner gave him $20 that he wasn’t expecting. (translation: we’re going to need a lot of free labor to pull off our Disney Land). I noticed the Idaho place will only RENT spaces in their community. So that they can enforce their HOA without the entanglements of actual real estate ownership. I plugged in some figures and it looked like it would cost me $2k/mo to live there. The only planned employment opportunities are at their gun manufacturing plant (hmm… anyone think that will end up like a US based Chinese sweat shop?). They claim to have 250 people qualified and signed up already. They don’t disclose how many of those are actually owners in the property. I don’t understand all the condolences for Prince Lazarus in the floating Utopia opportunity. You’d think they would be expecting him back any day now? I agree that I also can’t wait for them to start populating this place. I imagine that they will be signing some really strong Non-Disclosure Agreements, so we’ll probably have about a 5 year wait before the ex-cult members start going public about the internals of how the place really operates. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/111 "2013-01-18T03:02:51Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > 'Twas always thus with movement conservatives. > > Rick Perlstein’s “[The Long Con: Mail-order conservatism](http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_long_con)” is worth a read for anyone who hasn’t checked it out. So are Perlstein’s two doorstopper-books, [_Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus,_](http://www.amazon.com/Before-Storm-Goldwater-Unmaking-Consensus/dp/1568584121/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358478020&sr=1-1&keywords=rick+perlstein) and [_Nixonland: The Rise of a President and the Fracturing of America._](http://www.amazon.com/Nixonland-Rise-President-Fracturing-America/dp/B003E7ET0S/ref=pd_sim_b_1) The latter ends with the 1972 election, just before the Watergate story broke – I eagerly await the planned third volume in the series. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/112 "2013-01-30T04:14:20Z")
Jon Stewart just covered this on _TDS._ Apparently, Beck’s Libertopia is actually a going to be a monument to New Urbanism and communal lifestyle-micromanagement. The cognitive dissonance . . . it burns . . . ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/113 "2013-01-30T04:52:21Z")
New Urbanism? Does that mean Libertopia will resemble New York City? ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/114 "2013-01-30T04:57:18Z")
They’re going to be libertarian commies? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/115 "2013-01-30T05:19:29Z")
> [@Robb](#): > > New Urbanism? Does that mean Libertopia will resemble New York City? No. The streets will be grass, apparently. Well, [New Urbanism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_urbanism) is distinctly not car-friendly. Presumably Independence Park will be build entirely pedestrian-scale – like [Seaside](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaside,_Florida) (where the streets are at least paved). Beck also remarked, in clips Jon Stewart played, that in the Independence Park “Marketplace” there will be no room for things like the Gap. And [all the food will be produced locally.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locavore) How granola-crunching anticorporate lefty can ya get?! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/116 "2013-01-30T05:25:57Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > They’re going to be libertarian commies? Again, apparently, actually. Stewart also played a clip where Beck talked about “breaking down class barriers,” though not enough of the clip to give any hint as to how. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/117 "2013-01-30T14:56:06Z")
[Here’s the _TDS_ clip.](http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/tue-january-29-2013-melissa-mccarthy) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/118 "2013-01-30T16:05:46Z")
> [@Robb](#): > > New Urbanism? Does that mean Libertopia will resemble New York City? Wait, think I already saw this movie. Philip Seymour Hoffman as Glenn Beck, right? ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/119 "2013-01-30T16:41:03Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Again, apparently, actually. Stewart also played a clip where Beck talked about “breaking down class barriers,” though not enough of the clip to give any hint as to how. Perhaps he’s hoping they’ll diffuse into him if he gets close enough. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231/120 "2013-01-30T16:55:41Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > [Per Right Wing Watch](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/independence-park-be-glenn-becks-galts-gulch): > > Any speculation about what’s going on? Publicity stunt to get some headlines? (Is Beck even a thing anymore post-Fox?) Could a handful of investors really pull this off? What rides do you think the theme park will have? Can’t wait to find out how basic services are doled out! > > Please oh please let this come to fruition! And please oh please, let there be Big Daddies and Little Sisters! > > (ETA: apologies for misspelling ‘Galt’. It’s been a long time since I was a high school sophomore, the maximum age anyone should take Libertarianism seriously.) Hmm. I thought it was some sort of doomsday prepper paradise until I saw the photos. There is a faction of the nutty extreme right that are organizing and living in communes in preparation for the end of the world. Their whole life revolves around learning how to live ina post-apocalyptic world. But nope, Glen beck is even nuttier than THAT. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck-goes-full-galt/647231.md?page=7)