# Glen Beck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 20, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216 "2011-06-20T22:16:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/21 "2011-06-21T15:08:41Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> Some posters here mentioned that sponsors were dropping him. Where does this info come from?

It was very public. [This story is almost two years old](http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advertisers-deserting-fox-news-glenn-beck-2009-08-14), but it said sponsors including Procter and Gamble, Geico, Progressive, and Sargento Cheese pulled ads from Beck’s show after he called Obama a racist.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/22 "2011-06-21T15:11:21Z")

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Here’s a list of [over 300 sponsors](http://stopbeck.com/dropped-sponsors/) that have dropped Beck (many include links to official statements from the companies).

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/23 "2011-06-21T15:12:54Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> It was very public. [This story is almost two years old](http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advertisers-deserting-fox-news-glenn-beck-2009-08-14), but it said sponsors including Procter and Gamble, Geico, Progressive, and Sargento Cheese pulled ads from Beck’s show after he called Obama a racist.

Thanks! (I wasn’t trying to imply that posters were lying.)

It may have been public news, but it is news now to me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/24 "2011-06-21T15:15:24Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Here’s a list of [over 300 sponsors](http://stopbeck.com/dropped-sponsors/) that have dropped Beck (many include links to official statements from the companies).

Thanks again! While “stopbeck dot com” may be biased, if even half that number is true, it still is a PR blackeye for any major [cable] network television channel.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/25 "2011-06-21T15:42:56Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I still see Beck on Fox. At the gym Fox is the only news channel they carry on the TV sets attached to the treadmills, so while doing my gerbil imitation (and thank god for the box of wood chips behind each treadmill!) …

They only show FOX at my gym too. I don’t think we go to the same gym either because me gym is too cheap to install wood chip boxes.

It’s bad enough having to exercise but now I can’t avoid seeing the talking heads complaining endlessly about how the world was perfect until Obamacare ruined everything. I could watch “Real Housewives” instead I guess.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/26 "2011-06-21T17:01:43Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Please, somebody ACTUALLY throw Beck under the bus. He’s the intellectual equivalent of roadkill.

But, sir, be Beck’s blatant bloated backside belatedly beneath-bussed (and be the body unburied), the malodorous miasma of polluted putrefaction might rattle Hannity’s sanity (or at least tatter his vanity), make Huckabee upchuckaby, bring O’Reilly’s bile rising highly, and flood filth on the floors at Fox-as-sucks, sir!

Join in, it’s fun! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/27 "2011-06-21T17:41:57Z")

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Why do networks cancel any high-ratings show? If they can’t make money off it, it doesn’t matter to the bosses how many viewers there are.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/28 "2011-06-21T19:18:43Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Fox flung Beck beneath the bus because Beck’s BS shocks e’en Fox, sir!

As the father of a two year old Suess lover, that made me snicker.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/29 "2011-06-21T20:23:39Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
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> As the father of a two year old Suess lover, that made me snicker.

Then so should [this!](http://www.tomsmithonline.com/lyrics/500_hats.htm)

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**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/30 "2011-06-21T21:12:15Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Now, I’m not saying that he was or wasn’t silenced by the liberals… but I think the mainstream media is falling down in its duty to this country by not asking this important question.

That was a little hard to follow. Could you maybe diagram it on a chalkboard for me?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/31 "2011-06-21T21:24:06Z")

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Just picture John Madden on acid diagramming the entire Super Bowl.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/32 "2011-06-21T22:15:30Z")

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BTW, in the interest of fighting ignorance, his first name is “Glenn,” with two "n"s.

Now, let us all get to work forgetting it.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/33 "2011-06-21T23:22:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> BTW, in the interest of fighting ignorance, his first name is “Glenn,” with two "n"s.

Now we can get to the debate!

Stranger

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/34 "2011-06-21T23:30:40Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Now we can get to the debate!
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> Stranger

Oh, yeah, right. I still say Beck is a poopypants. You **really** think he’s a chowderhead?! Cite?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/35 "2011-06-21T23:57:32Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Oh, yeah, right. I still say Beck is a poopypants. You **really** think he’s a chowderhead?! Cite?

I was going to go with deeply repressed homosexual wearing the worst collection of cast-off Christmas jumpers since Bill Cosby, but have it your way.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/36 "2011-06-22T16:24:26Z")

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I think Fox dropped Beck because the market for snake oil has declined.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/37 "2011-06-22T16:26:15Z")

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Nah. Snake oil goes up in a recession. Kind of like gold.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/38 "2011-06-23T18:42:05Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> It was very public. [This story is almost two years old](http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advertisers-deserting-fox-news-glenn-beck-2009-08-14), but it said sponsors including Procter and Gamble, Geico, Progressive, and Sargento Cheese pulled ads from Beck’s show after he called Obama a racist.

Which came first, Progressive dropping him, or Beck railing against progressives?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/39 "2011-06-23T19:23:47Z")

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So… Beck bucked Fox, so Fox fucked Beck?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glen-beck/586216/40 "2011-06-23T19:47:07Z")

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Every TV show has sponsors that advertise for a while, then move their ad buy elsewhere. Does this constitute ‘dropping’ the show? If you picked any TV show at random and looked the sponsors who advertised on it over the years, couldn’t you compile a list of sponsors who ‘dropped’ the show?

I think a handful of big sponsors dropped Beck a couple of years ago when Obama was highly popular and Beck said some harsh things about him. I don’t know that that is the cause of his leaving two years later.

A good way to answer that question would be to see what sponsors Beck has _now_, and how they compare the sponsors that, say, Hannity gets. Are they demonstrably inferior? Is Beck pulling in less revenue per minute of advertising? Are there fewer advertisements on the show, indicating that the network couldn’t find buyers for its ad space?

If not, then all this stuff about Beck being dropped because all his sponsors are running away is just partisan BS. I find the actual explanation offered by the network and Beck himself to be more compelling - Beck doesn’t want to do a boring daily show - he wants to do big events and give speeches and headline rallies and all the rest. As a result, his daily show was suffering, the network was getting frustrated by the difficulties of keeping his show running, and they sat down with Beck and worked out a different deal that allowed him to do what he wanted and freed the network of the headache of his daily show.

I think it’s also possible that Beck was just attracting too much negative publicity to Fox, and was threatening the perceived credibility of their news programming, and they wanted to tone down his profile.

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