# Glenn Beck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 11, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345 "2006-06-11T22:32:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/1 "2006-06-11T22:32:13Z")

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I pit Glenn Beck.

C’mon, didn’t CNN already have a man-o-the-people, one-o-the-guys, jackass in the form of the reincarnated Lou Dobbs?

Man, CNN… goddamn liberal media commie pigs!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/2 "2006-06-11T23:56:03Z")

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That’s quite a skeletal pitting you got there, mister. Would you kindly slap some flesh on those bones so I’ll know whether to:

1. Agree with you;
2. Call you a ferret-felching gonad-sucker;
3. Yawn and move on to the next thread.

Thank you for your consideration.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/3 "2006-06-12T00:16:26Z")

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1. is usually a safe bet. Suffice to say that Glenn Beck is like a lite version of Joe Scarbourough and has no business on a channel called ‘Headline News’.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/4 "2006-06-12T00:23:45Z")

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What is the point of pitting Beck? I pit CNN for giving him a platform.

> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> Suffice to say that Glenn Beck is like a lite version of Joe Scarbourough and has no business on a channel called ‘Headline News’.

Nothing lite about Beck. While he is firm in his right wing views, I have never heard Scarborough spew the hateful bigoted stuff Beck has:

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> Additionally, during a discussion of George Clooney’s remarks at the March 5 Academy Awards ceremony, in which Clooney argued that Hollywood had been advocating action on civil-rights issues and AIDS before it was popular to do so, Beck responded to Clooney by imitating the voice of a “blackface” actor.
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> From Beck’s March 6 show (sections in bold were spoken in the “blackface” voice):
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> BECK: And in 1939 – I mean, let me tell you something – you were so right that Hollywood was standing up for the black folk of America. In fact, let me say this in the way Hollywood would understand: **"You were so right, massa! Back in 1939 when I was sittin’ there on the silver screen with my watermelon, eatin’ it up and dancing with little Shirley Temple with my tap shoes on, you were so right. Mammy, you were right."**

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/5 "2006-06-12T00:28:30Z")

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Link for above:

[http://mediamatters.org/items/200605030014](http://mediamatters.org/items/200605030014)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/6 "2006-06-12T00:35:39Z")

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I don’t know what the fuck CNN is doing lately. It’s like they want to turn into the Howard Beale network.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/7 "2006-06-12T00:40:04Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> What is the point of pitting Beck? I pit CNN for giving him a platform. Nothing lite about Beck. While he is firm in his right wing views, I have never heard Scarborough spew the hateful bigoted stuff Beck has:

Isn’t he just pointing out the stupidity of saying Hollywood has been a bastion of civil rights when that has not always been the case, when it pandered to racial stereotypes? Whether you agree with this or not, whether you think it’s a meaningful counter, it’s not racist to suggest it, is it?

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/8 "2006-06-12T00:42:11Z")

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BTW, I’m reacting only to the quote provided. I really don’t have an opinion on Beck overall.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/9 "2006-06-12T00:45:53Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Isn’t he just pointing out the stupidity of saying Hollywood has been a bastion of civil rights when that has not always been the case, when it pandered to racial stereotypes? Whether you agree with this or not, whether you think it’s a meaningful counter, it’s not racist to suggest it, is it?

It is racist if you use repugnant sterotypes to make the point. And Beck’s history regarding diversity, be it blacks, Jews, native Americans or gays is pretty clear; he is a bigoted racist of the first order. Read my cite from above.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/10 "2006-06-12T00:47:26Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> BTW, I’m reacting only to the quote provided. I really don’t have an opinion on Beck overall.

CNN still deserves a pitting for calling itself a news channel while giving airtime to a guy who thinks that that passes for debate.

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/11 "2006-06-12T00:50:07Z")

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He’s part of the new guard at CNN and fits in perfectly with what they’re doing with the network now, whatever the hell it’s supposed to be. The thing that got me about Beck is he was supporting some Christian broadcasting station down in Louisiana. I didn’t turn on Headline News to hear about Jesus, unless he’s made a suprise appearance somewhere.

Headline News is going completely down the crapper anyway. When I go to bed I don’t want to watch their even more horrible than usual Celebrity Wankfest, listen to Nancy Grace or anything else. I just want the news. Regular CNN has Larry King on, and I don’t like him either. Usually now I just suffer through the born again Tucker Carlson who sort of combs his hair these days.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/12 "2006-06-12T01:00:12Z")

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Glenn Beck is the dude who says homosexuality is a Communist plot.

I’m still trying to recover from hearing that.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/13 "2006-06-12T01:33:59Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> It is racist if you use repugnant sterotypes to make the point. And Beck’s history regarding diversity, be it blacks, Jews, native Americans or gays is pretty clear; he is a bigoted racist of the first order. Read my cite from above.

I think a number of those are super-dumb more than racist. But the way he carries on in the ‘black’ voice is kinda hard to take any other way.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/14 "2006-06-12T01:38:17Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think a number of those are super-dumb more than racist.

I wasn’t aware the two were mutually exclusive.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/15 "2006-06-12T07:51:24Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> I wasn’t aware the two were mutually exclusive.

They’re not; I said I thought they were “more” one than the other. Racism is always dumb, and the only possible excuse for it is ignorance.

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/16 "2006-06-12T08:00:27Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> It is racist if you use repugnant sterotypes to make the point. And Beck’s history regarding diversity, be it blacks, Jews, native Americans or gays is pretty clear; he is a bigoted racist of the first order. Read my cite from above.

That’s pretty silly, in my opinion. He sure as hell isn’t trying to insinuate that he belives that character to be an accurate reflection of black people, he’s pointing out that a very specific and disgustingly racist stereotype arose from that supposed bastion of progressive liberalism, Hollywood.

I’m not impressed by your above cite because you’ve clipped the part where he asks where this stock character comes from immediately afterwards.

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/17 "2006-06-12T08:05:42Z")

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Oh yeah, and next I presume that you’ll be railing against Spike Lee for his film _Bamboozled_, given your rather unsophisticated stance regarding the employment of any blatant racial stereotype to make any sort of point.

[http://www.bamboozledmovie.com/film/index.html](http://www.bamboozledmovie.com/film/index.html)

Or do these “racists” only get called to the mat when Republican?

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/18 "2006-06-12T12:12:50Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> 1. is usually a safe bet. Suffice to say that Glenn Beck is like a lite version of Joe Scarbourough and has no business on a channel called ‘Headline News’.

I agree and have messaged CNN to that effect. If I get any response at all I expect them to thank me for my input and my support of CNN and assure me that they will continue to provide the best in news.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/19 "2006-06-12T12:17:51Z")

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> [@threemae](#):
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> That’s pretty silly, in my opinion.

Why am I not surprised that you would rise to the defense of a bigoted racist?

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/20 "2006-06-12T12:43:12Z")

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> [@threemae](#):
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> …a very specific and disgustingly racist stereotype arose from that supposed bastion of progressive liberalism, Hollywood.

Not entirely accurate. Minstrel shows were a popular form of entertainment long before Hollywood existed. Can’t blame Hollywood for the stereotype any more than you can blame Tab for the existance of shitty-tasting diet soda.

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