# Glenn Beck **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 11, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345 "2006-06-11T22:32:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/21 "2006-06-12T12:51:37Z")
> [@Hamadryad](#): > > Not entirely accurate. Minstrel shows were a popular form of entertainment long before Hollywood existed. Can’t blame Hollywood for the stereotype any more than you can blame Tab for the existance of shitty-tasting diet soda. Which, of course, makes **Fear Itself** ’s point even more meaningless. Glenn Beck isn’t a racist based on that particular statement. I’m not sure how he/she can possibly make that leap in logic. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/22 "2006-06-12T15:07:47Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > Why am I not surprised that you would rise to the defense of a bigoted racist? Excuse me? And why would that be? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/23 "2006-06-12T15:20:28Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > Why am I not surprised that you would rise to the defense of a bigoted racist? Because you’re the sort of person who would rather make snide implications about someone who disagrees with them than actually, y’know, have a proper discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/24 "2006-06-12T15:23:15Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > Excuse me? And why would that be? Because your track record confirms that you will jump in to defend any right wing position, no matter how odious or execrable the pundit. ---
**Author:** ![Bob55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bob55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob55)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/25 "2006-06-12T17:39:42Z")
There are some comments here that say Glenn Beck is a bigot, racist, extreme right-wing etc. I’ve listened to him for 5 years and don’t think any of this is true. If you really listen to him (and not just read the web clips) he is very tongue-in-cheek in almost everything he says. Sure he takes a stand on conservative things, but he’s hardly a puppet for the President. He’s a funny guy, and uses political issues to make jokes. If they can do it on Mind of Mencia and get away with it, why can’t he? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/26 "2006-06-12T17:56:35Z")
> [@Bob55](#): > > There are some comments here that say Glenn Beck is a bigot, racist, extreme right-wing etc. I’ve listened to him for 5 years and don’t think any of this is true. If you really listen to him (and not just read the web clips) he is very tongue-in-cheek in almost everything he says. Sure he takes a stand on conservative things, but he’s hardly a puppet for the President. He’s a funny guy, and uses political issues to make jokes. If they can do it on Mind of Mencia and get away with it, why can’t he? So when he said he wanted to strangle Michael Moore to death with his own hands, he was just kidding around? ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/27 "2006-06-12T18:29:24Z")
> [@Bob55](#): > > If they can do it on Mind of Mencia and get away with it, why can’t he? Mind of Mencia doesn’t air on CNN Headline News. ---
**Author:** ![Bob55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bob55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob55)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/28 "2006-06-12T18:30:51Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > So when he said he wanted to strangle Michael Moore to death with his own hands, he was just kidding around? If you get to know him, probably yes. But I’m not going to defend everything someone says, I’m just pointing out that he is very sarcastic most of the time. I don’t think you should go around saying you want to strangle someone for real and haven’t heard the context of his statement, but knowing how he is it was probably in a dramatic, sarcastic manner. I seriously doubt he would strangle anyone. He himself says on his show you should listen for a while before judging whether you like him or not. When he started out in 2001 I couldn’t stand him AT ALL. But then after a few weeks I started to “get” him and realize his sarcastic sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/29 "2006-06-12T18:57:37Z")
> [@CynicalGabe](#): > > Mind of Mencia doesn’t air on CNN Headline News. Also, Mind of Mencia sucks too! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/30 "2006-06-12T19:05:01Z")
> [@Hamadryad](#): > > Not entirely accurate. Minstrel shows were a popular form of entertainment long before Hollywood existed. So it’s not “not entirely accurate,” it’s fucking wrong. Hollywood did indeed provide a platform for that stuff and it’s more than fair to criticize it for that, but the stuff had been popular for decades. Hollywood reflects popular sentiments most of the time, and once in a while (perhaps) it could be said to take a stand. ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/31 "2006-06-12T21:15:03Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > Also, Mind of Mencia sucks too! Don’t you want to learn wetback english? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/32 "2006-06-13T00:57:09Z")
This is the Pit. Right? Glenn Beck is a bigoted, racist, fascist asshole. Anyone who would defend that festering piece of shit has seriously lost any “cred” he might have had. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/33 "2006-06-13T01:20:10Z")
[http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090003](http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090003) Glenn Beck called hurricane survivors in New Orleans “scumbags,” said he “hates” 9-11 families [http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A72935](http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A72935) “You know, it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims’ families? … And I had such compassion for them, and I really wanted to help them. … I don’t hate all of them, probably about 10 of them. And when I see a 9/11 victim family on television or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh, shut up!’ I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining. And we did our best for them.” [http://helzerman.com/wp/?p=398](http://helzerman.com/wp/?p=398) “And that’s all we’re hearing about, are the people in New Orleans. Those are the only ones that we’re seeing on television are the scumbags.” [http://southpaw.goodshow.net/archives/001594.html](http://southpaw.goodshow.net/archives/001594.html) Glenn Beck, a conservative talk radio host, often champions “Christian” causes. Today, he said that he would leave any New Orleans residents who stayed behind and are now calling for rescue help after Katrina. “I wouldn’t risk any lives to save them,” he said, claiming that they had the chance to get out but didn’t. The problem with his little death rant is that some have said that the evacuation order was late and that “officials acknowledged that tens of thousands of residents and tourists would be unable to leave.” Folks like Beck have more than enough hate and anger to go around and have seemingly run out of targets. [http://mediamatters.org/items/200505180008](http://mediamatters.org/items/200505180008) Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was “thinking about killing [filmmaker] Michael Moore” and pondered whether “I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it,” before concluding: “No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out – is this wrong?” [http://mediamatters.org/items/200605030014](http://mediamatters.org/items/200605030014) Media Matters for America documented a number of statements Beck made that CNN was either not aware of or did not consider disqualifying. Since then, he has said Mexico “is run by nothing but criminals,” called Cindy Sheehan a “prostitute,” and suggested to a 7-year-old African-American girl, reportedly the author of a controversial poem, that she should “go to Africa.” [http://www.glennpedia.com/index.php/Glenn](http://www.glennpedia.com/index.php/Glenn) On May 14, 2004, Beck said on his show that Michael Berg, the father of the murdered U.S. contractor Nick Berg, was “despicable” and “a scumbag,” saying “can you let your son’s body become the same temperature as your son’s head before you turn this into a political campaign against the president-could you do that?” [http://maximumamerica.com/?cat=6028](http://maximumamerica.com/?cat=6028) On the June 8 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, CNN Headline News host Glenn Beck stated emphatically that Coulter was right about the 9-11 wives. Beck agreed with Coulter that just because you lost somebody in a tragedy doesn’t mean that you get a free pass for the restof your life. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/34 "2006-06-13T01:36:18Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > Because your track record confirms that you will jump in to defend any right wing position, no matter how odious or execrable the pundit. And you would be fucking kidding me, correct? **Mr. Iteslf,** prepare to look like a jackass. Just for you I bothered to look up my entire posting history for the past month and I’ll now provide you a brief summation of all of my “serious” posts from political threads. From here relating to Haditha: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374851&page=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374851&page=2) > [@Moi](#): > > No, it’s not fair to smear the names of all Marines, but when the immediate chain of command accepts “road-side bomb” as the cause of death for three whole households of people whom have obvious gun shot wounds in photos and when uncovering attrocities takes months and severe pressure from the media, and when the head-honcho’s reaction to all of this isn’t to chasten his organization or improve it but to play PR spin-doctor, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that citizens question their armed forces. From here relating to Guantanamo: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=375290&page=1&pp=50](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=375290&page=1&pp=50) > [@Moi](#): > > Judicial due process in a court of law. > > Yeah, 'effin crazy, I know, but it just might be crazy enough to work. > > Or we could just throw 400 years of the development of human rights out the window and permit an exexcutive to detain people indefinitely without trial. From here relating to the “morning after” pill: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374515](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374515) > [@Moi](#): > > Nothing personal people, but please, fer’ chrissakes, pay attention to health news and politics. > > [http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...93\_watch25.html](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...93_watch25.html) > > [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...tnG=Search+News](http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...tnG=Search+News) > > The FDA’s medical review board has recommended making emergency contraception available over the counter but political appointees to the agency have indefinitely suspended the decision. > > Write your congresscritters/president/FDA appointees. From here relating to the ethics of abortion and the general hyporisy of The Dope on the topic:[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=373070](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=373070) > [@Moi](#): > > I’m aware that this is a bit of a hijack, but I just wanted to point out what I consider to be a prevailaing view of this board from previous discussions of abortion: > > “When pro-life people are willing to grant exceptions for rape, incest, obvious life-risk to the mother, etc. they are conceeding that their motivations aren’t for the welfare of the child, but to, ‘punish those dirty sluts,’ or else such compromises are out of political expediency to be able to block more abortions than a complete ban.” > > However, turning this arument around, if you’re okay with abortion at all, shouldn’t you be willing to allow it in all cases? Doesn’t this point of view acknowledge that abortion is “bad” in the sense that there is a compelling public interest in seeing it reduced? And if there’s a compelling public interest in seeing it reduced, why not ban it, except in cases where the other possible outcomes are extremely bad (rape, incest, etc.)? In summation, I make one argument that I suppose one could call “conservative” out of four posts. The rest, I think you will agree, are “liberal” viewpoints. Has anyone ever called you a dumbass before? If not, them please, **Fear** allow me to be the first: dumbass. Unless, of course, you would prefer to provide me with some objective evidence to the contrary, but for some crazy reason I doubt you’ll even bother to respond. Thanks, **threemae** ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/35 "2006-06-13T05:12:04Z")
Interesting. This is the last i heard of him: > [@](#): > > In the late '90s, Beck was a DJ on WKCI (KC101), a Top 40 radio station owned by Clear Channel Communications in Hamden, Connecticut, hosting a local morning talk show with co-host Vinnie Penn. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345/36 "2006-06-13T05:26:34Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > Why am I not surprised that you would rise to the defense of a bigoted racist? Glenn Beck is a bigot, all right, but that doesn’t mean that was the best possible quote to use as evidence of that. Out of context, it isn’t, in fact, a racist statement. David Cross could do that joke and it’d mean something else entirely. But this is a minor point, since Beck (I’d never heard of him before this thread, but I don’t think I’ll forget him now) has provided us with ample other soundbytes which do clearly demonstrate his lack of human decency. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-beck/360345.md?page=1)