# Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally will not be political (& other Tea Party nonsense) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 26, 2010, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517 "2010-08-26T11:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/181 "2010-08-29T14:04:43Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > > [@flickster](#): > > > > I still claim this was the defining moment when the wheels flew off Obama’s cart for “fly-over America” or when it became apparent the Emperor wore no clothes - take your pick. > > > > As for the Restore Honor rally, despite Beck, it came off with both a unifying message and a message of individual strength. True to Beck’s promise, it was about as politics free as a gathering of this sort can be. I wasn’t able to watch 100% of the program but did catch a vast majority of it. Never heard one mention of Obama, the current administration, or the usual socialism, Islamic radical, bankrupting America buzzwords one would expect. > > Yeah, the more political part was the Michelle Bachman rally cleverly arranged for the same day. > > > [@](#): > > > > After Beck finished, some tea party members crossed the mall to get to Michele Bachmann’s political “tea party” rally, which featured, among others, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R- Texas). At the rally, Bachmann urged members to not “vote everyone out of office,” as there were “deserving members” that she said should stay around. > > that’s where they non politically asked the Tea Party folks to not throw out all the incumbets. I later heard Beck and guest David Barton prasing Bachman as a wonderful Chriatian woman on a show Saturday afternoon. > > Sounds to me like the non political part is a clever ruse. It is a clever political strategy though. You misspelled “cretin”. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/182 "2010-08-29T14:09:26Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > I’m not sure how this is meant, but the truth has no bias whatsoever. How we interpret the truth before us, and what we do with it , is where bias shows up. It was meant as a joke. Then again, the truth is that trickle down economics is a load of tosh, Obama isn’t a socialist Muslim, tax cuts for the rich don’t benefit anyone but the rich, Iraq was invaded for oil profits, and the US health care system is FUBAR. So you see, clear and obvious lefty bias 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/183 "2010-08-29T14:18:00Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Did Beck make an issue of skin color in that statement? No. He did, however, point out that Obama’s actions indicate that he has an issue with skin color. Such as when Obama heard that a white police officer arrested a black professor and immediately said that the police acted stupidly without knowing one other frickin’ fact about what happened. Which is what prompted Beck’s statement in the first place. Comon man, be reasonable. Saying anyone has a deep seated hatred for white people is making an issue of skin color isn’t it? In fact if you listen to Obama’s remarks about the arrest he was the one who didn’t make race an issue. He actually said he didn’t know if race had anything to do with it but he understood someone being mad about being arrested in their own home. Dr Gates was his friend. His friend was arrested in his own home after the officer knew it was his home and there was no break in. As President he shouldn’t have commented at all but there’s nothing in his words to indicate race was an issue. If that incident was the one that prompted Beck’s remarks about Obama being a racist then Beck drew a rather large conclusion from words that did not make race an issue. If you and Beck are making the connection in your own mind, “Gates is Black, Obama’s Black” so Obama’s comments are based on racism., then it’s you two that are making it a race issue. Judge Obama’s words not what you think his motives were, and then judge Beck’s words. Clearly, it’s Beck who made a large racial issue out of it by claiming Obama had a deep seated hatred for white people. The reasonable thing would have been to do what Obama did. 'I don’t know if race was an issue" To go from Obama’s rather innocuous comments ,to deep seated hatred, is a giant leap based on racial perceptions. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/184 "2010-08-29T14:44:53Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > Well, during his address he made a point of not specifying a chosen religion. at the closing he had a diverse group of pastors, rabbis, etc on stage and even _gasp_ mentioned mosque multiple times. I haven’t watched it yet. How many religious groups were actually represented by people? I know he’s Christian so I expect him to stress that somewhat but as our country becomes more diverse the focus has to be on the principles he mentioned not religion and especially not one particular brand. We’ll see how it goes from here. I’ve never seen him extend anything similar to Christian charity in his distortions and attacks on people. He seems to be moving toward libertarian and that’s okay, if he can be an honest one. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/185 "2010-08-29T14:48:27Z")
I just don’t understand people who associate Palin and beck with 'honor". Just exactly do they think the word means? Palin had a teenage daughter knocked up (and of course she was knocked up herself) and she tried to make her get married to the father who is clearly not ready for marriage and fatherhood and who later posed for Play Girl. Meanwhile she quit the office she was elected to and for which she took an oath on the bible. Then of course there are her many outright lies on healthcare which set back progress on UHC for years. What does it look like to not have honor? I know gay, atheist dads who raise well mannered kids, volunteer at schools raising money, keep neat yards, and shop for their elderly neighbors. Do they somehow have less ‘honor’ then scumbags like Palin and Beck because they don’t go to church? ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/186 "2010-08-29T14:51:18Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > > [@flickster](#): > > > > Well, during his address he made a point of not specifying a chosen religion. at the closing he had a diverse group of pastors, rabbis, etc on stage and even _gasp_ mentioned mosque multiple times. > > I haven’t watched it yet. How many religious groups were actually represented by people? I know he’s Christian… He’s a Mormon. One day when we have a theocracy he’ll be stoned to death along with other heretics. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/187 "2010-08-29T15:07:31Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Come on, nearly everyone that’s not a card-carrying teabagger thinks the Tea Party is full of loons and a healthy smattering of out-and-out bigots. And they have been called on it repeatedly. It’s only a matter of time until they implode. And I’ll go further and say that’ll be right after the election when these morons are shown to be the non-voting noisemakers I think they are. I don’t think it will turn out that way. The anti government sentiment they’re capitalizing on is widespread and real. I think if they control the racist lunatic fringe and soften the message as they did at the rally they will gain momentum. I mentioned before that there was a political rally afterwards with Michelle Bachman and another republican, asking folks not to throw the good candidates out. {guess who they mean?} Later on his showed he and his guest David Barton whose site [Wallbuilders](http://www.wallbuilders.com/) seems to stress Christianity, referred to Bachman as a wonderful Christian woman. We’ll see how open they actually are to our diversity. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/188 "2010-08-29T15:10:53Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > > [@spark240](#): > > > > This criticism could be leveled at every rally/march/demonstration ever held in the name of any cause, and it would be equally unfair in every case. Rallies are not _for_ accomplishing their stated goal… they’re for stating the goal. Rallying around it, so to speak. The test is _always_ what happens after. > > This is correct. Obviously people are dissatisifed with the way things have been going. I think yesterday’s rally shows we can’t dismiss the Tea Party crowd as won nuts and racists. I’m a little concerned about Beck Stressing religion and encouraging people , not only to believe, but to go back to church, and saying the country has to get back to God. He had a show on Fox yesterday stressing the same thing with David Barton from [Wallbuilders](http://www.wallbuilders.com/). > America is far to diverse now to cater to one brand of religion. We’ll see what he stresses in the weeks to come. Beck blew his opportunity. He could have stood out there and discussed things like integrity, responsibility, accountability, perseverance, etc., but no - what does he do? He babbles his ass off about religion. He might as well change his show to compete with Joel Osteen at the Lakewood church here in Houston, or Billy Graham and his ilk, or the Farting Preacher. I wish he would STFU about how we need to be prayin’ ta gawd all the time. Our country got to be great in spite of religion, not because of it. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/189 "2010-08-29T15:13:12Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > He’s a Mormon. One day when we have a theocracy he’ll be stoned to death along with other heretics. right! Once Palin uses him to become President she’ll have Mormonism declared a cult, at which point Glenn will switch denominations. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/190 "2010-08-29T15:28:10Z")
I want to hear more about this Farting Preacher character. Is he on YouTube? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/191 "2010-08-29T15:32:04Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Beck blew his opportunity. He could have stood out there and discussed things like integrity, responsibility, accountability, perseverance, etc., but no - what does he do? He babbles his ass off about religion. > > He might as well change his show to compete with Joel Osteen at the Lakewood church here in Houston, or Billy Graham and his ilk, or the Farting Preacher. I wish he would STFU about how we need to be prayin’ ta gawd all the time. Our country got to be great in spite of religion, not because of it. The principles and a person’s character matter much more than their religious beliefs or lack of them. Im don’t care if someone is Christian or Buddhist, Muslim or whatever. Stressing a particular religion in a country this diverse is going to create a lot more problems than it solves. Because of the Bachman rally right after Beck’s and the references on his show to her I think it’s just a backdoor appeal to Conservative Christians seen as the GOP base. I think the general public will reject that. I just hope we don’t do it with hatefulness and hurling insults. THat only aides in the divisiveness and helps those despicable people who make money by being hate and fear mongers. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/192 "2010-08-29T15:35:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I want to hear more about this Farting Preacher character. Is he on YouTube? Blessed be the bean and broccoli makers for they shall receive flatulence. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/193 "2010-08-29T15:37:53Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > I just don’t understand people who associate Palin and beck with 'honor". Just exactly do they think the word means? Palin had a teenage daughter knocked up (and of course she was knocked up herself) and she tried to make her get married to the father who is clearly not ready for marriage and fatherhood and who later posed for Play Girl. Meanwhile she quit the office she was elected to and for which she took an oath on the bible. Then of course there are her many outright lies on healthcare which set back progress on UHC for years. What does it look like to not have honor? > > I know gay, atheist dads who raise well mannered kids, volunteer at schools raising money, keep neat yards, and shop for their elderly neighbors. Do they somehow have less ‘honor’ then scumbags like Palin and Beck because they don’t go to church? Maybe we need to get Rachel Maddow to profile some folks like that just to show society that it’s about who you are, reflected in your actions, not clinging to a label about what you claim to believe. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/194 "2010-08-29T17:01:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I want to hear more about this Farting Preacher character. Is he on YouTube? [Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!](http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1075541/farting_preacher_5/) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/195 "2010-08-29T17:07:54Z")
The fact that Beck could claim a rally Sarah Palin was speaking at was apolitical, with a straight face, is quite impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/196 "2010-08-29T17:26:43Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > You have my deepest sympathy. 😃 > > Thank you- your kind words give me strength :D. > > I moved in 3 days before the 2008 election. When I was moving my furniture, I saw the 10,000 Palin signs in the lady across the street’s yard. I literally said to my friend, “Even in Bakersfield, who the fuck has that many pro Palin signs? I’m sure even Sarah Palin doesn’t have that many pro Palin signs.” Then I met her and she’s the notoriously right wing city councilwoman (if you stand out as notoriously right wing around these parts. . . that says something!). > > Next election, I feel there’s going to be a war of signs. Epic war. 😛 Drove through that area for the first time a couple weeks ago. Saw many a sign saying “oppose the government created water shortage.” So yeah, they’d fit right in with the teabaggers holding signs saying “hey socialist obama: keep your hands off my medicare!” ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/197 "2010-08-29T17:35:34Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > > > I want to hear more about this Farting Preacher character. Is he on YouTube? > > [Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!](http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1075541/farting_preacher_5/) I’ve seen one on youtube before but I’ve never seen that one. The coordination with his words and expressions was hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/198 "2010-08-29T17:41:17Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > “I got my honor on her, your Honor.” She said, “Sir, I offer you my honor.” He said, “Madame, I honor your offer.” And that was how it went all night – honor, offer, honor, offer . . . ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/199 "2010-08-29T17:44:13Z")
By a strange coincidence, Beck is being interviewed today By Chris Wallace on his FoxNews Sunday Talk show. I’m watching it now. This will be the most I’ve ever seen of Beck, as I’ve only watched a few minutes of his show. Should be interesting. Or not. ETA: To Beck’s credit, one of the first things he said is: “I am not a journalist”. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/200 "2010-08-29T17:49:21Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The fact that Beck could claim a rally Sarah Palin was speaking at was apolitical, with a straight face, is quite impressive. The fact that some actually _believe_ crap like that is sad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=11)