# Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally will not be political (& other Tea Party nonsense) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 26, 2010, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517 "2010-08-26T11:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/221 "2010-08-29T20:26:37Z")
'Burying the lead" is a newspaper term for leaving out the most interetsing or important part of a story (or “burying” it at the bottom of the page rather than leading with it). No big deal you didn’t catch it. I was only being arch. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/222 "2010-08-29T20:50:49Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > 'Burying the **lead**" is a newspaper term for leaving out the most interetsing or important part of a story (or “burying” it at the bottom of the page rather than leading with it). > > No big deal you didn’t catch it. I was only being arch. Lede. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/223 "2010-08-29T20:56:41Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > [@elucidator](#): > > > > [http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/29/wallace-beck-credibility/](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/29/wallace-beck-credibility/) > > > > ThinkProgress. The usual prophylactic procedures apply for such persons as might fear contamination from reason. > > He actually called Obama “demonic?” **Mace** buried the lead. > > I’m kind of surprised to see he only drew 87,000 people for his Million Moron March yesterday. Sounds like it was kind of a flop. There’s some serious disagreement about that. It’s hard to tell at those events. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/224 "2010-08-29T20:57:01Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > Did anybody see the moment where he was asked about a Beck/Palin ticket for 2012? He said no way would it happen, but in such a way as to convey that he was neither surprised nor humbled by the notion. Yes, I did, and yes, that’s the impression I got, too. So, tell me Glen, should we discuss what an incredible person you are, or should we discuss how much the people love you? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/225 "2010-08-29T21:00:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > He was trying to rephrase his response to Obama’s reaction to the Skip Gates incident. He wanted to say that Obama wasn’t a racist, but that he looked at things through the prism of BLT-- something most Americans don’t do. On white bread with Mayo. That’s the problem right there. I don’t see how anyone listening to Obama’s speech on racism and his innocuous words on the Gates incident could come up with “deep seated hatred for white people” > [@](#): > > I believe he also mentioned that he, as a Mormon, was also someone with whom most people in the US (or most Christians) would take issue over his specific theology. and then he showed his magic underwear? did he say if Palin wasn’t married he’d marry her and all her sisters too? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/226 "2010-08-29T21:14:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > [@elucidator](#): > > > > [http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/29/wallace-beck-credibility/](http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/29/wallace-beck-credibility/) > > > > ThinkProgress. The usual prophylactic procedures apply for such persons as might fear contamination from reason. > > He actually called Obama “demonic?” **Mace** buried the lead. > > I’m kind of surprised to see he only drew 87,000 people for his Million Moron March yesterday. Sounds like it was kind of a flop. He didn’t call Obama demonic, he said he is influenced by a theology that the Pope called demonic. I wonder what the Pope thinks of Mormonism. But here’s a thought, Up thread people mentioned liberation theology as “radical Catholics” and then Beck quotes the Pope. I think Beck, perhaps accidentally but maybe deliberately, is confusing the Catholic brand of Liberation theology with BLT that was preached by Wright. If so, that’s some good material to point out. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/227 "2010-08-29T21:20:31Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > But here’s a thought, Up thread people mentioned liberation theology as “radical Catholics” and then Beck quotes the Pope. I think Beck, perhaps accidentally but maybe deliberately, is confusing the Catholic brand of Liberation theology with BLT that was preached by Wright. > > If so, that’s some good material to point out. Yep, I’m thinking that’s what he did, although there are similarities but the [Catholic version](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology) gives him more ammo > [@](#): > > Liberation theology is a movement in Christian theology which construes the teachings of Jesus Christ in terms of a liberation from unjust economic, political, or social conditions. It has been described by proponents as “an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor’s suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor”, and by detractors as Christianity perverted by Marxism and Communism oooooo i feel a national theology discussion coming on. Oh goodie. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/228 "2010-08-29T21:25:19Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I’m kind of surprised to see he only drew 87,000 people for his Million Moron March yesterday. Sounds like it was kind of a flop. [/QUOTE] That figure was an undercount based on estimates of satellite images. From the air, you can’t tell that each attendee had four other morons stacked on his shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/229 "2010-08-29T22:28:42Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > 'Burying the **lead**" is a newspaper term for leaving out the most interetsing or important part of a story (or “burying” it at the bottom of the page rather than leading with it). > > > > No big deal you didn’t catch it. I was only being arch. > > Lede. Either spelling is acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/230 "2010-08-29T22:38:55Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > [QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] > I’m kind of surprised to see he only drew 87,000 people for his Million Moron March yesterday. Sounds like it was kind of a flop. That figure was an undercount based on estimates of satellite images. From the air, you can’t tell that each attendee had four other morons stacked on his shoulders. [/QUOTE] Maybe it was the number of brains the morans had between them 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/231 "2010-08-29T23:56:04Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > FWIW, Beck recanted that statement today, as part of the “liberation theology” remarks. Did he? The [article](http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100829/pl_yblog_upshot/glenn-beck-regrets-calling-obama-a-racist) I read included this: > [@](#): > > Beck last year accused the president of possessing a “deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture,” during an appearance on Fox News, adding, “this guy is, I believe, a racist.” > > But this Sunday, when Wallace asked Beck if he regretted making those comments, Beck responded: “Of course I do.” > > “I don’t want to retract… I want to amend that I think it is much more of a theological question,” Beck said. (the quote continues with Beck raising the issue of liberation theology) So, regretted, but not retracted. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/232 "2010-08-30T00:21:12Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > FWIW, Beck recanted that statement today, as part of the “liberation theology” remarks. Sort of. He specifically said that he didn’t “retract” the statement before taking off on the theological tangent. In other words: weasel, weasel, weasel. ETA: Oops, left this window open while cooking dinner. **Robot Arm** beat me to it almost half an hour ago. ---
**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/233 "2010-08-30T00:35:41Z")
One wonders what it means to “regret” something without “retracting” it. Or at least I do. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/234 "2010-08-30T00:37:56Z")
> [@LilShieste](#): > > One wonders what it means to “regret” something without “retracting” it. I suppose he regrets saying it because it caused him a lot of trouble. Doesn’t mean he didn’t mean it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/235 "2010-08-30T01:07:09Z")
I wanna know … Why is Beck so important, what has he ever said that was right or mattered? What has he ever said, that he had enough conviction and balls to say “Yeah I said it”, when called on it, instead of waffling, equivocating, and “regretting”? Why does that stupid useless spineless shitforbrains matter to anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/236 "2010-08-30T01:25:01Z")
> [@LilShieste](#): > > One wonders what it means to “regret” something without “retracting” it. > > Or at least I do. Under the circumstances, I think it means “peace with honor”. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/237 "2010-08-30T01:38:03Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Why does that stupid useless spineless shitforbrains matter to anyone? Because he articulates the fear, anger and hatred felt by the ignorant, powerless 20% of Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/238 "2010-08-30T01:43:41Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I wanna know … > > Why is Beck so important, what has he ever said that was right or mattered? … I’m sure he’s said something along the lines of, “Hitler was bad”, which is right, and it matters because there seems to be a lot of people who don’t believe anything that doesn’t come out of his mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Rafe\_Hollister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/fbc32d/32.png) [@Rafe\_Hollister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rafe_Hollister)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/239 "2010-08-30T02:01:40Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I wanna know … > > Why is Beck so important, what has he ever said that was right or mattered? What has he ever said, that he had enough conviction and balls to say “Yeah I said it”, when called on it, instead of waffling, equivocating, and “regretting”? > > Why does that stupid useless spineless shitforbrains matter to anyone? Apparently he matters enough that you fuckers who think he doesn’t matter will have a circle jerk in an internet forum for 2 days and 5 pages about what an idiot he is. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/240 "2010-08-30T02:12:28Z")
I believe it is called a discussion about a guy who had a rally at MLKs “I have a dream speech” location. It is relevant at this time. But wont be for long. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=13)