# Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally will not be political (& other Tea Party nonsense) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 26, 2010, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517 "2010-08-26T11:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/81 "2010-08-28T01:24:47Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > So…you expect Beck’s fans to get lost? 🙂 I think as long as they’re in the right general area, they’ll be able to figure out where the action is. Those driving in circles around Lincoln, Nebraska are on their own. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/82 "2010-08-28T01:25:55Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > I just learned that Glenn Beck is a Mormon (on Wiki). This blows my mind. . . I thought Mormons were nice :(. > > I seem to recall previous discussions on the board in which ex-Mormons asserted that the nice behavior is mostly a facade. Then Beck needs to. . . fake it harder. Way harder. He’s basically ruining Mormons for me. Wont someone think about my feelings here?☹ ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/83 "2010-08-28T01:30:41Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I just learned that Glenn Beck is a Mormon (on Wiki). This blows my mind. . . I thought Mormons were nice :(. I learned some time ago that he’s a Moron. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/84 "2010-08-28T01:30:50Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > I suspect lefties will suddenly have no problem with corporate personhood or corporate free speech. Google Maps absolutely has the right to fuck up their maps if they wish to. Of course, that would get them some deserved and well-earned criticism, as well as make the product less reliable and less likely to be used, and that would be the price they pay. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/85 "2010-08-28T01:38:28Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > I just learned that Glenn Beck is a Mormon (on Wiki). This blows my mind. . . I thought Mormons were nice :(. > > I learned some time ago that he’s a Moron. There was a Mormon land where Beck should get lost into. > **[List of Book of Mormon people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_%28Book_of_Mormon%29)** > > This list is intended as a compendium of individuals mentioned in the Book of Mormon. > [@](#): > > The Land of Moron is also mentioned in the Book of Ether, in chapters 7 and 14. The Land of Moron was near the Land of Desolation of the Nephites..[11]. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/86 "2010-08-28T01:47:51Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > I suspect lefties will suddenly have no problem with corporate personhood or corporate free speech. > > (Is it possible to googlebomb Google Maps? I haven’t heard of it happening before.) Fear us, worm. We don’t know your address, but all we need is your coordinates. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/87 "2010-08-28T01:48:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [hijack] > > Last night on _The Daily Show,_ John Stewart showed a lot of Glenn Beck clips – including several where Beck says he really, really hates Woodrow Wilson. > > 😕 Why would Beck, or anybody else, hate Woodrow Wilson? > > [/hijack] > [@Kyla](#): > > > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > > [hijack] > > > > Last night on _The Daily Show,_ John Stewart showed a lot of Glenn Beck clips – including several where Beck says he really, really hates Woodrow Wilson. > > > > 😕 Why would Beck, or anybody else, hate Woodrow Wilson? > > > > [/hijack] > > I don’t know why Glenn Beck doesn’t like Woodrow Wilson, but I don’t like him because he was death on free speech during WWI. > [@joebuck20](#): > > > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > > [hijack] > > > > Last night on _The Daily Show,_ John Stewart showed a lot of Glenn Beck clips – including several where Beck says he really, really hates Woodrow Wilson. > > > > 😕 Why would Beck, or anybody else, hate Woodrow Wilson? > > > > [/hijack] > > I think one of the big reasons is that the Federal Reserve and the federal income tax came into being during his administration. > [@Giles](#): > > > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > > [😕 Why would Beck, or anybody else, hate Woodrow Wilson? > > Perhaps because he defeated two Republicans (Taft and Hughes) and a former Republican (Roosevelt). Of course, by Beck’s standards, all three of those gentlemen were progressive, but he may be just going by the party identification. Personally I think it was the League of Nations, the first serious attempt at a “New World Order”. It was in many ways Wilson’s baby, even though IIRC the Senate refuse to ratify the treaty. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/88 "2010-08-28T02:57:09Z")
Woodrow Wilson was also a racist himself, IIRC. (I prefer good ol’ Teddy Roosevelt. That guy was a total BAMF. He once gave a speech right after being shot – with the bullet STILL in his rib cage. Now that’s badass.) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/89 "2010-08-28T03:00:01Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Woodrow Wilson was also a racist himself, IIRC. Even by the standards of his own time. He introduced segregation to the Navy, and held a special screening of _Birth of a Nation_ at the White House. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/90 "2010-08-28T03:15:36Z")
I love Teddy’s image of bravado and vitality, representing a young nation coming of age. But Teddy was a racist in ways that would make an Aryan Nation skinhead blush. He believed that the “Teutonic race” was a scientific fact, and destined to rule the world, and that America was the result and the extension of that destiny. He believed that Teutonic belligerance and aggression was a positive trait, it was why white people triumphed over the weak and passive lesser races. Teddy was the genius who figured out that if you use a professional photographer, a painted backdrop and a buckskin costume, you could convince people that you were a manly man, a rough rider from the mountains, instead of an asthma-afflicted mamma’s boy from the pampered part of New York. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/91 "2010-08-28T03:25:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Woodrow Wilson was also a racist himself, IIRC. … In Beck’s mind that would be one of his few redeeming qualities. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/92 "2010-08-28T06:20:40Z")
[Glenn Beck compares ABC report to Nazi propaganda](http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100827/cm_yblog_upshot/glenn-beck-compares-abc-report-to-nazi-propaganda) Enough, Glenn, please, I’m drowning in honor over here. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/93 "2010-08-28T06:45:15Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > How did Glenn Beck lose his honor? Not that honor! his _other_ honor! (oglaf reference) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/94 "2010-08-28T07:00:53Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > > [@athelas](#): > > > > I suspect lefties will suddenly have no problem with corporate personhood or corporate free speech. > > Google Maps absolutely has the right to fuck up their maps if they wish to. Of course, that would get them some deserved and well-earned criticism, as well as make the product less reliable and less likely to be used, and that would be the price they pay. Pointless trivia : most commercial maps are borked in some slight, unimportant way as a copyright measure. If your map features the town of Made-Upia or Nonesuch Street which I put on mine, I can prove you copy/pasted. I’d be surprised if Google Maps was any different. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/95 "2010-08-28T10:34:19Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > [@Guinastasia](#): > > > > Woodrow Wilson was also a racist himself, IIRC. > > Even by the standards of his own time. He introduced segregation to the Navy, and held a special screening of _Birth of a Nation_ at the White House. And why should he not screen it? It happens to be one of the greatest movies ever made, whatever you think of the director’s viewpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/96 "2010-08-28T11:04:34Z")
I like how Beck’s rally has morphed over time. First it was for his book (“The Plan”) release, then he realized it was the MLK date so it became a civil rights rally, then it became a support the troops rally, then a cmbo civil rights/troop support with politicians and Brietbart, but now it’s supposedly not political and I think Brietbart was dropped. I can hardly tell what the rally is for, exept that is is just a Beck love-fest. Woodbeck! Beckstock! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/97 "2010-08-28T12:01:24Z")
[Excellent Daily Show segment on the “Monsters of Beck 2010” show](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/27/stewart-beck-rally-civil-rights_n_696758.html). ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/98 "2010-08-28T12:05:23Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > I can hardly tell what the rally is for, exept that is is just a Beck love-fest. Woodbeck! Beckstock! It has morphed yet again, [into a revival meeting](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38891505/ns/politics-more_politics/): > [@](#): > > Speaking at an event at the Kennedy Center Friday night, Beck emphasized the religious aspect of his message, The Washington Post reported. > > “We are 12 hours away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America,” Beck said, according to the Post. “It has nothing to do with this city or politics. It has everything to do with God almighty.” > > “This is the beginning of the great awakening of America … We must give voice to what God says we must do,” he added. “My message to you tonight is stand where He wants you to stand and trust in the Lord. If He tells you to do it, do it. If you can’t figure it out, He will. Just do it.” Beckapalooza! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/99 "2010-08-28T13:44:17Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > Woodbeck! Beckstock! > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Beckapalooza! Altabeck. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/100 "2010-08-28T14:07:52Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > > [@Ca3799](#): > > > > Woodbeck! Beckstock! > > > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > > Beckapalooza! > > Altabeck. I didn’t know the Hell’s Angels were into teabagging. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=6)