# Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally will not be political (& other Tea Party nonsense) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 26, 2010, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517 "2010-08-26T11:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/101 "2010-08-28T14:12:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Teddy was the genius who figured out that if you use a professional photographer, a painted backdrop and a buckskin costume, you could convince people that you were a manly man, a rough rider from the mountains, instead of an asthma-afflicted mamma’s boy from the pampered part of New York. He may have been those things, but he was in fact a badass. The man finished a speech AFTER BEING SHOT IN THE CHEST. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/102 "2010-08-28T14:33:24Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > I like how Beck’s rally has morphed over time. First it was for his book (“The Plan”) release, then he realized it was the MLK date so it became a civil rights rally, then it became a support the troops rally, then a cmbo civil rights/troop support with politicians and Brietbart, but now it’s supposedly not political and I think Brietbart was dropped. I can hardly tell what the rally is for, exept that is is just a Beck love-fest. Woodbeck! Beckstock! Wait a minute! He’s written a book called “The Plan”? And now he’s holding rallies aimed at stirring up an unthinking emotionalistic nationalism blaming people’s woes on “them”, and roping in every feelgood Motherhood and Apple Pie trope he can come up with? And has absolutely no compunctions about telling transparent lies, because his True Believers will accept whatever he says? Holy Godwin’s Mother of Mercia, give me strength to resist the temptation to draw the obvious parallel!!! ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/103 "2010-08-28T14:49:35Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > Wait a minute! He’s written a book called “The Plan”? And now he’s holding rallies aimed at stirring up an unthinking emotionalistic nationalism blaming people’s woes on “them”, and roping in every feelgood Motherhood and Apple Pie trope he can come up with? And has absolutely no compunctions about telling transparent lies, because his True Believers will accept whatever he says? The full title is **Broke: The Plan to Restore Our Trust, Truth and Treasure** , which makes it sound exactly like every other conservative screed written in the last five years. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/104 "2010-08-28T15:55:20Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > Even by the standards of his own time. He introduced segregation to the Navy, and held a special screening of _Birth of a Nation_ at the White House. > > And why should he not screen it? It happens to be one of the greatest movies ever made, whatever you think of the director’s viewpoint. Perhaps I wasn’t clear. He didn’t screen it because he thought it was a fun romp the whole family would love. _He thought it was accurate._ [QUOTE=Glenn Beck] If you can’t figure it out, He will. Just do it. [/QUOTE] I knew it was only a matter of time before Nike started endorsing pundits. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/105 "2010-08-28T16:05:36Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > > [@Frank](#): > > > > Google Maps absolutely has the right to fuck up their maps if they wish to. Of course, that would get them some deserved and well-earned criticism, as well as make the product less reliable and less likely to be used, and that would be the price they pay. > > Pointless trivia : most commercial maps are borked in some slight, unimportant way as a copyright measure. If your map features the town of Made-Upia or Nonesuch Street which I put on mine, I can prove you copy/pasted. I’d be surprised if Google Maps was any different. Good point, and worth considering. However, now that the rally’s already started, google reverts to the correct location. Which suggests that the lie was specifically planted. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/106 "2010-08-28T16:08:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > > [@thirdname](#): > > > > I learned some time ago that he’s a Moron. > > There was a Mormon land where Beck should get lost into. > > [List of Book of Mormon people - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_%28Book_of_Mormon%29) > > > [@](#): > > > > The Land of Moron is also mentioned in the Book of Ether, in chapters 7 and 14. The Land of Moron was near the Land of Desolation of the Nephites..[11]. > > 🙂 Well, I’ve always said that Joseph Smith Jr. was the purveyor of Moronic\* revelations. As for Mormons being “nice”, I’d just ask any gay or gay-supportive Californian for their take on the subject. - revelations he claimed to receive from the resurrected personage Moroni son of Mormon, of course. You don’t think I’d insult him like that, do you? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/107 "2010-08-28T16:16:51Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > Good point, and worth considering. However, now that the rally’s already started, google reverts to the correct location. Which suggests that the lie was specifically planted. So the Beckbots who used Google to find the rally were misled? Did they both find it? ---
**Author:** ![christine12505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@christine12505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/christine12505)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/108 "2010-08-28T16:57:04Z")
Can anyone tell me when and where the quote glenn beck said that Obama has a deep seated hatred of the white man? Can’t find it anywhere ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/109 "2010-08-28T17:05:09Z")
> [@christine12505](#): > > Can anyone tell me when and where the quote glenn beck said that Obama has a deep seated hatred of the white man? Can’t find it anywhere [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GzKFYcHKbnk/hqdefault.jpg "Glenn Beck Calls Obama A Racist") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzKFYcHKbnk) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/110 "2010-08-28T17:05:54Z")
> [@christine12505](#): > > Can anyone tell me when and where the quote glenn beck said that Obama has a deep seated hatred of the white man? Can’t find it anywhere [Here you go.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/fox-host-glenn-beck-obama_n_246310.html) ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/111 "2010-08-28T17:06:30Z")
Context… Beck [said it](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIZDnpPafaA) on the morning of July 28, 2009, on the _Fox & Friends_ program. This was a couple days before the “beer summit,” when Obama met with Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Cambridge police Sgt. James Crowley. ---
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/112 "2010-08-28T17:07:18Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > Good point, and worth considering. However, now that the rally’s already started, google reverts to the correct location. Which suggests that the lie was specifically planted. Wow! That means google really is my friend. BTW, **christine12505** , google can be your friend too. Try “Obama hatred white people”. You’ll find videos and everything. :smack: edited to add; damn you guys are fast! ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/113 "2010-08-28T18:04:36Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > > [@elucidator](#): > > > > Teddy was the genius who figured out that if you use a professional photographer, a painted backdrop and a buckskin costume, you could convince people that you were a manly man, a rough rider from the mountains, instead of an asthma-afflicted mamma’s boy from the pampered part of New York. > > He may have been those things, but he was in fact a badass. The man finished a speech AFTER BEING SHOT IN THE CHEST. Word. Under Teddy’s carefully constructed veneer of badass was an actual badass. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/114 "2010-08-28T18:26:51Z")
Forgive me for babbling here, but I just cannot fathom why the left is letting this bullshit go down. Let me explain- I don’t mean the rally, that’s their right to have. What I mean is this whole general movement- one fueled by this crazy, nationalistic, emotional bigotry. Why the fuck isn’t the Left calling a spade a spade? This stuff legitimately makes me worry about the future of the country. The right is very good at self promotion- just look at this ridiculous rally. The Left is too busy giving concessions on important shit and trying to stay diplomatic to head this ridiculous off before it blows up. Am I being ridiculous here? It just seems I’m seeing more and more racism and bigotry lately- justified through nationalism and not IMMEDIATELY shut down in polite society It boggles my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/115 "2010-08-28T18:30:28Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Am I being ridiculous here? It just seems I’m seeing more and more racism and bigotry lately- justified through nationalism and not IMMEDIATELY shut down in polite society It boggles my mind. Come on, nearly everyone that’s not a card-carrying teabagger thinks the Tea Party is full of loons and a healthy smattering of out-and-out bigots. And they have been called on it repeatedly. It’s only a matter of time until they implode. And I’ll go further and say that’ll be right after the election when these morons are shown to be the non-voting noisemakers I think they are. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/116 "2010-08-28T18:32:31Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > Am I being ridiculous here? It just seems I’m seeing more and more racism and bigotry lately- justified through nationalism and not IMMEDIATELY shut down in polite society It boggles my mind. > > Come on, nearly everyone that’s not a card-carrying teabagger thinks the Tea Party is full of loons and a healthy smattering of out-and-out bigots. And they have been called on it repeatedly. It’s only a matter of time until they implode. And I’ll go further and say that’ll be right after the election when these morons are shown to be the non-voting noisemakers I think they are. You know, the optimistic side wants to agree with you, but these people are _loud_ and it seems like they are growing more and more every day. Perhaps it’s just propaganda- I fully acknowledge that, but someone just told me half a million people marched at that Beck rally today. If that’s true. . . ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/117 "2010-08-28T18:44:34Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > You know, the optimistic side wants to agree with you, but these people are _loud_ and it seems like they are growing more and more every day. Perhaps it’s just propaganda- I fully acknowledge that, but someone just told me half a million people marched at that Beck rally today. If that’s true. . . I went looking around for numbers and everything I’ve read seems to paint the rally as the peaceful “Yay America!” and “Yay Christianity!” fest that Beck said it would be. I know, I’m as shocked as you are. ABC News was the only ones to put a number on the rally and they had it pegged at [100,000](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/thousands-gather-dc-becks-restoring-honor-rally/story?id=11504433). Beck himself seems to be the source for the [500,000](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-28/-turn-back-to-god-beck-tells-tea-party-activists-at-rally-in-washington.html) estimate. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/118 "2010-08-28T19:48:00Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Forgive me for babbling here, but I just cannot fathom why the left is letting this bullshit go down. Let me explain- I don’t mean the rally, that’s their right to have. What I mean is this whole general movement- one fueled by this crazy, nationalistic, emotional bigotry. Why the fuck isn’t the Left calling a spade a spade? > > This stuff legitimately makes me worry about the future of the country. The right is very good at self promotion- just look at this ridiculous rally. The Left is too busy giving concessions on important shit and trying to stay diplomatic to head this ridiculous off before it blows up. > > Am I being ridiculous here? It just seems I’m seeing more and more racism and bigotry lately- justified through nationalism and not IMMEDIATELY shut down in polite society It boggles my mind. What, exactly, should “the left” do? It’s certainly true that “the left” on this MB has figuratively shut them down, but how would that work in the real world? You don’t see anything but scorn on the lefty cable news shows like Maddow and Oberman. > [@Justin Bailey](#): > > Come on, nearly everyone that’s not a card-carrying teabagger thinks the Tea Party is full of loons and a healthy smattering of out-and-out bigots. [Nope.](http://www.pollingreport.com/politics.htm) > [@](#): > > AP-GfK Poll conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs & Media. Aug. 11-16, 2010. N=1,007 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4.5. > > “Do you have a favorable, unfavorable, or neither favorable nor unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party movement?” > > Favorable 31% > Unfavorable 34% > Neither 30% ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/119 "2010-08-28T19:50:32Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > He has a right to do this. > > But doing it is tone-deaf and insensitive. Beck does have a right to hold his rally. But it is NOT tone-deafness and insensitivity at work here. Beck knows EXACTLY what he’s doing and what others will think of it. It’s actually an example of fine-tuned sensitivity, used for fucking evil reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/120 "2010-08-28T19:55:19Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Forgive me for babbling here, but I just cannot fathom why the left is letting this bullshit go down. Let me explain- I don’t mean the rally, that’s their right to have. What I mean is this whole general movement- one fueled by this crazy, nationalistic, emotional bigotry. Why the fuck isn’t the Left calling a spade a spade? > > This stuff legitimately makes me worry about the future of the country. The right is very good at self promotion- just look at this ridiculous rally. The Left is too busy giving concessions on important shit and trying to stay diplomatic to head this ridiculous off before it blows up. > > Am I being ridiculous here? It just seems I’m seeing more and more racism and bigotry lately- justified through nationalism and not IMMEDIATELY shut down in polite society It boggles my mind. Are you party to a lot of conversations where people say, “that Glenn Beck, he’s really looking out for America?” If so, that’s your look out. Personally, I don’t know anyone who doesn’t think Beck is a dummy, even on the right, and I’m glad about that. It’s not quite the same thing as the TP movement; I know lots of people who are into that. Having said that, it’s hard to judge the Tea Party and its membership because there are two distinct elements to it. There’s (1) a bunch of people who are pissy about the economy, and (2) a bunch of people who think there shouldn’t be no nigger Moslem in the White House. The polls gauging TP support do a very poor job of distinguishing between the two sides. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=7)