# Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally will not be political (& other Tea Party nonsense) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 26, 2010, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517 "2010-08-26T11:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/141 "2010-08-28T23:54:23Z")
A “unifying message?” What exactly was the message? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/142 "2010-08-28T23:57:07Z")
Hooray for our side. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/143 "2010-08-29T00:01:01Z")
The police did act stupidly in the Henry Gates incident, by the way. Obama was absolutely right. Becks’s statement that Onbama has a “deep seated hatred for white people” was completely baseless and asinine, especially since Obama himself is just as white as he is black, and his white family was the closest and most important to him growing up. Any perception that Obama hates white people stems only from the entrenched negrophobia of the perceiver, not from any actions or words by Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/144 "2010-08-29T00:02:44Z")
I’ve been wondering: when does Mr. Beck think we lost our honor, exactly, and why? Who did it? Where was it lost? Can we get that honor back, or do we have to make some new honor? ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/145 "2010-08-29T00:08:23Z")
[Confirmation](http://www.pcworld.com/article/204373/google_maps_misplaces_lincoln_memorial.html?tk=hp_new) This is not the first time Google abused its near monopoly power for political purposes. Google maintains plausible deniability by making minor “mistakes” (sending Glenn Beck’s followers to the wrong place, turning Pat Buchanan into a unperson in the Prompts for awhile, and so forth). Misplacing the Lincoln Memorial is, of course, not a mistake, it’s, at best, a prank. I don’t know whether these dirty tricks are caused merely by individuals at Google abusing their authority, or whether Google, normally a most methodical company, is testing what it can get away with politically. If it’s the former, has anyone at Google ever been punished for these political dirty tricks? I’ve never heard any follow up to the Pat Buchanan unpersonization, no apology, no press release, nobody reprimanded. So, it may well go down in company annals as a successful little experiment in what Google can get away with by picking on the unfashionable. My personal guess is that Google will be able to get away with manipulating its data for political purposes as long as its masks its manipulations as mistakes that can be “fixed” instantly when the heat gets too intense. Google is too powerful and too scary for most media figures to question publicly. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/146 "2010-08-29T00:12:36Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > [Confirmation](http://www.pcworld.com/article/204373/google_maps_misplaces_lincoln_memorial.html?tk=hp_new) All that link confirms is someone has the same suspicions you do. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/147 "2010-08-29T00:26:34Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > [Confirmation](http://www.pcworld.com/article/204373/google_maps_misplaces_lincoln_memorial.html?tk=hp_new) > > This is not the first time Google abused its near monopoly power for political purposes. Google maintains plausible deniability by making minor “mistakes” (sending Glenn Beck’s followers to the wrong place, turning Pat Buchanan into a unperson in the Prompts for awhile, and so forth). Misplacing the Lincoln Memorial is, of course, not a mistake, it’s, at best, a prank. I don’t know whether these dirty tricks are caused merely by individuals at Google abusing their authority, or whether Google, normally a most methodical company, is testing what it can get away with politically. > > If it’s the former, has anyone at Google ever been punished for these political dirty tricks? I’ve never heard any follow up to the Pat Buchanan unpersonization, no apology, no press release, nobody reprimanded. So, it may well go down in company annals as a successful little experiment in what Google can get away with by picking on the unfashionable. My personal guess is that Google will be able to get away with manipulating its data for political purposes as long as its masks its manipulations as mistakes that can be “fixed” instantly when the heat gets too intense. Google is too powerful and too scary for most media figures to question publicly. Don’t use Google. That’ll learn em. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/148 "2010-08-29T00:38:47Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > There were no politicians there… The former governor of Alaska is not a politician? ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/149 "2010-08-29T00:51:11Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Don’t use Google. That’ll learn em. About as useful as greenies whining about boycotting Exxon, except oil is a fungible good. One-track mind, lefty activists. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/150 "2010-08-29T01:00:22Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > Don’t use Google. That’ll learn em. > > About as useful as greenies whining about boycotting Exxon, except oil is a fungible good. One-track mind, lefty activists. That’s the only option I can think of. If their ad clicks go down due to providing an unreliable product, they don’t make as much money. Have you any better ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/151 "2010-08-29T01:00:57Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > One-track mind, lefty activists. \_tax cuts_\ ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/152 "2010-08-29T01:16:48Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’ve been wondering: when does Mr. Beck think we lost our honor, exactly, and why? Who did it? Where was it lost? Can we get that honor back, or do we have to make some new honor? I lost mine in 64. My babysitter was 17. I was 11. I never got it back. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/153 "2010-08-29T01:20:38Z")
“I got my honor on her, your Honor.” ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/154 "2010-08-29T01:26:29Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’ve been wondering: when does Mr. Beck think we lost our honor, exactly, and why? Who did it? Where was it lost? Can we get that honor back, or do we have to make some new honor? Yeah, I want to know the same thing. Not political, my ass. Ask anyone at that rally what happened to '“honor” and who do you think they would blame? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/155 "2010-08-29T01:44:44Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Ask anyone at that rally what happened to '“honor” and who do you think they would blame? America’s ‘torture president’? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/156 "2010-08-29T03:15:59Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’ve been wondering: when does Mr. Beck think we lost our honor, exactly, and why? Who did it? Where was it lost? Can we get that honor back, or do we have to make some new honor? I gotta say, when Bill Clinton spooged all over Monica’s dress, it wasn’t America’s most shining moment. 😛 But… I blame Nixon. He was the guy most responsible for the break between American citizens and their government. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/157 "2010-08-29T03:20:00Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > > [@joebuck20](#): > > > > Please. Do you honestly believe Glenn Beck gives a shit about the Founding Fathers or the Constitution? If this guy thought he could make a buck sucking off the corpse of Lenin, he’d be flying to Moscow at warp speed. > > Yes, I do. You see, I am not a blind bigot. I’ve listened to him for a couple of years now. As I said, he’s an annoying pain in the ass when he wanders out into the weeds of religion, but I have yet to hear him say anything that isn’t based on common sense or fact. Again, Beck is first and foremost a grade-A ass clown. If bullshit were currency this guy would be Scrooge McDuck. As it stands, though, he’s simply filthy rich. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/158 "2010-08-29T03:39:11Z")
It’s plain as day. Or, maybe night, depending on how you look at it. We lost our honor the day Obama was sworn in as President of the USA. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/159 "2010-08-29T03:52:23Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > I’ve been wondering: when does Mr. Beck think we lost our honor, exactly, and why? Who did it? Where was it lost? Can we get that honor back, or do we have to make some new honor? > > I gotta say, when Bill Clinton spooged all over Monica’s dress, it wasn’t America’s most shining moment. 😛 > > But… I blame Nixon. He was the guy most responsible for the break between American citizens and their government. There is no break between citizens and the govt. The citizens have the choice between electing people that lie to them and and those that tell the truth and they vote for the liars. They want politicians to lie to them because they don’t want to face the truth that we have a crappy healthcare system, we have a huge gap between revenue and spending that can not be solved by cutting taxes, and that we are not living up to our ideals as a country. This isn’t North Korea where the govt controls the media. The facts are out there for anyone to see, but people just want to ignore them. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517/160 "2010-08-29T04:02:14Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > The facts are out there for anyone to see, but people just want to ignore them. That’s a little unfair. A lot of people don’t have the tools to distinguish facts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-restoring-honor-rally-will-not-be-political-other-tea-party-nonsense/551517.md?page=9)