# Glenn Becks targets Frances Fox Piven (of "Cloward-Piven"); "targets" fitting word

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 21, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430 "2011-01-21T07:55:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/21 "2011-01-21T19:37:12Z")

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It is pretty troubling that he never denied raping and killing that girl in 1990. I guess maybe something should be done.  
What? I said something! Maybe I meant a bake sale! I’m pretty sure the second amendment also means bake sale solidarity and such.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/22 "2011-01-21T20:11:33Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> Kind of like the Washington Post… Washington Post mind you… story about the “radical” “band” of Republicans proposing to “slash” the budget that I saw yesterday.
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> I can’t find it now… could they have taken it down and cleaned up the language a little?

Or could you be making shit up? It’s a conundrum, all right.

Not that such an article, if it did exist, would have anything at all to do with the subject of this thread. I’m just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/23 "2011-01-21T20:22:53Z")

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Has anyone ever seen Wt? and ralphrandomnumbers in the same room?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/24 "2011-01-21T20:26:22Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Someone should really do something about Glenn Beck. I’m not going to say what, but hopefully that person has a healthy respect for the 2nd Amendment…and all the other Amendments but especially the 2nd. And the thing that they do will hopefully make Beck unable to keep doing the things he does. Or moving.
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> Again, I’m not going to say WHAT should be done, only that it should be done soon, hopefully when he’s outsomewhere vulnerable…to nature, like rain, you know, out in the open. And alone, not near a hospital. Cause they’re so socialist

I’ve got something in mind, but it involves . . . tickling.

Not that **I’d** get that close to him. Brave volunteers should PM me.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/25 "2011-01-21T20:32:06Z")

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So when a stupid conservative sees a thread where the right is challenged for something wrong, their first impulse is to look up something vaguely similar the left did so they can cluck like a retard how the left does it too. They do this even when the only thing they can find isn’t really that similar.

I understand now. Thank you **What the … !!!**. You’ve improved my understanding of how your approximation of reasoning works.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/26 "2011-01-21T20:41:29Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> It is pretty troubling that he never denied raping and killing that girl in 1990. I guess maybe something should be done.  
> What? I said something! Maybe I meant a bake sale! I’m pretty sure the second amendment also means bake sale solidarity and such.

I don’t anything about him raping a girl, but I’d sure like to know about the fate of the little boy in this picture.

[http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1451625510/ref=sib\_dp\_pt#reader-link](http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1451625510/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link)

As far as I know, he’s never denied swallowing him whole.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/27 "2011-01-21T20:49:48Z")

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I was thinking [ecstasy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA#Subjective_effects) laced chalk myself.  
I mean why damage him more, maybe, we could fix him?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/28 "2011-01-21T20:58:34Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Because she’s now getting death threats on his website.](http://www.thenation.com/article/157900/glenn-beck-targets-frances-fox-piven)
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> I can’t actually wish death on anyone on this board, even Beck, even in the Pit. I say only that somebody, somewhere, should DO SOMETHING.

I’ve only seen Beck in snippets from time to time, but I can’t imagine him encouraging violence. From what I’ve seen he is either interviewing people like David Barton, discussing the Founders, or using his chalkboard to show how different organizations are linked to government, usually the democratic party. But like I said I haven’t seem him much.

If there is a link between his show and Byron Williams’s action, can you show what it was that BECK said that caused him to grab a gun. If it was just the type of information I’ve seen Beck provide via his chalkboard, I can’t imagine he merits and blame. But I’m willing to wait and see the evidence.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/29 "2011-01-21T21:49:43Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I’ve only seen Beck in snippets from time to time, but I can’t imagine him encouraging violence.

[No need to imagine](http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/21/937651/-Becks-call-to-violence:-Shoot-them-in-the-head).

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/30 "2011-01-21T22:11:42Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I’ve only seen Beck in snippets from time to time, but I can’t imagine him encouraging violence.

Are you shitting me? [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcvbw6ExTQ) is a clip from his show where he says, “you’re going to have to shoot them in the head”. [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg) is audio from his radio show where he says “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore”. He’s also said that he wanted to kill Charlie Rangel with a shovel and has made jokes about poisoning Nancy Pelosi.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/31 "2011-01-21T22:29:39Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Are you shitting me? [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcvbw6ExTQ) is a clip from his show where he says, “you’re going to have to shoot them in the head”. [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg) is audio from his radio show where he says “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore”. He’s also said that he wanted to kill Charlie Rangel with a shovel and has made jokes about poisoning Nancy Pelosi.

Well you have to understand, Magellan’s brain doesn’t record information that conflicts with his worldview into his long term memory. That’s why he says the same bullshit after being proven wrong time after time. Sad really. It’s like Memento with a less charming protagonist.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/32 "2011-01-21T22:34:02Z")

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Beck meanwhile has been hawking his new book, [Seven Wonders That Will Change Your Life](http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Wonders-That-Will-Change/dp/1451625510#_), that discuss how compassion made him the sweet guy he is today.

No, really. He used to be a [very bad man](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/19/glenn-beck-today-bad-man-vieira_n_810836.html?ir=Politics), but now he’s a wonderful guy you know. Because of his compassion. And friendship and family and puppies and stuff.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/33 "2011-01-21T22:41:04Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> No, really. He used to be a [very bad man](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/19/glenn-beck-today-bad-man-vieira_n_810836.html?ir=Politics)

Was this in 1990? Because I’ve heard rumors…

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/34 "2011-01-21T23:00:15Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> Hey **Joe** … tuck your quoque back in your pants and calm down. This is the pit, right? I can say anything I want and use as many question marks as I want, can’t I?

Sure, but that doesn’t make it any more persuasive or any less horseshit.

You’re acting like a kid who posts in textspeak and then snipes, “Come on, we’re not in school!” No, you’re not, but you still look like an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/35 "2011-01-21T23:05:43Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Was this in 1990? Because I’ve heard rumors…

He didn’t say, just that whenever it was it involved a young girl who’s no longer alive.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/36 "2011-01-21T23:19:40Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> So when a stupid conservative sees a thread where the right is challenged for something wrong, their first impulse is to look up something vaguely similar the left did so they can cluck like a retard how the left does it too. They do this even when the only thing they can find isn’t really that similar.
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> I understand now. Thank you **What the … !!!**. You’ve improved my understanding of how your approximation of reasoning works.

To expand on this theme a bit, apparently **WT** is arguing that it’s perfectly OK for a bunch of random schmucks to call for Frances Fox Piven’s murder, because the _Washington Post_ may have used the word ‘slash’ in an article about the US budget.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/37 "2011-01-21T23:41:51Z")

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To be fair, I don’t think it’s an “argument” so much as “word vomit”.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/38 "2011-01-21T23:49:47Z")

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To be extra fair, \*\*WT \*\*probably has an IQ of 90 and gets all hyperventally when people attack his heroes.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/39 "2011-01-22T00:00:47Z")

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I posted in a GB thread today - Beck is also implicated in four other incidents this year - see here

[http://mediamatters.org/research/201101130002](http://mediamatters.org/research/201101130002)

and  
[http://crooksandliars.com/taxonomy/term/3952,4379,509](http://crooksandliars.com/taxonomy/term/3952,4379,509)

In two of those incidents, the perpetrator’s relatives mention Beck, in one of the incidences the per himself mentions Beck, and in the fourth, the perp’s defense lawyer compares him to Beck, favorably, and claims Beck is his client’s idol.

Just sayin.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glenn-becks-targets-frances-fox-piven-of-cloward-piven-targets-fitting-word/568430/40 "2011-01-22T00:04:04Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> To be extra fair, \*\*WT \*\*probably has an IQ of 90 and gets all hyperventally when people attack his heroes.

Exactly. I think it’s an actual physical reaction, like a gag reflex. That explains why Wt? and his ilk can’t take the time to assess the actual quality or even the relevance of whatever their first Google hit reveals. If they don’t hurry, they’re gonna miss the toilet and spew this shit all over their lazyboys.

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