# Gloat at Fox News here
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [November 7, 2012, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187 "2012-11-07T08:04:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/1 "2012-11-07T08:04:59Z")
[Click](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3wm0GNLr1r2psnho1_400.jpg)
Screenshots taken before and after they called Ohio.
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### Author:  [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/2 "2012-11-07T08:21:41Z")
> [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](#):
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> [Click](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3wm0GNLr1r2psnho1_400.jpg)
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> Screenshots taken before and after they called Ohio.
FOX News flummoxes me. All their commentators and reporters, with perhaps the exception of Shep Smith, were wrong, wrong, wrong, completely wrong about the outcome of the election. Why do folks still listen and believe what they say? Karl Rove and Dick Morris for example? And what the heck was up with George Will? I always thought him a reasoned and thoughtful Republican.
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### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/3 "2012-11-07T08:35:32Z")
Probably Roger Ailes dangled a substantial contract in front of him, and showed him a copy of the _Washington Times_ with a story indicating that the cost of living in Foggy Bottom isn’t getting noticeably cheaper.
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### Author:  [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/4 "2012-11-07T08:38:00Z")
George Will does a decent shtick on TV, but he’s always been a hack. A litany of anti-Will pieces:
[http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/2004/08/george\_will\_lia.html](http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/2004/08/george_will_lia.html)
> **[Classic George Will. Seriously. - Lawyers, Guns & Money](https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/11/classic-george-will-seriously)**
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> Looking through my 1976 copy of The Changing American Voter today, what should I find inside? This vintage 1976 clipping of a George Will column, warning us sternly about the dangers of allowing voter registration by . . . mail. Because...
[http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/11/23/32768/will-new-deal/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/11/23/32768/will-new-deal/)
> **[Nate Silver on George Will and the Washington Post](https://delong.typepad.com/egregious_moderation/2009/02/nate-silver-on-george-will-and-the-washington-post.html)**
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> FiveThirtyEight.com: Politics Done Right: Will Omitted Key Context in Ice Age Quote: Although George F. Will's article today on the supposed global cooling scare of the 1970s was fundamtentally dishonest, it turns out that Will has brushed up against...
> **[Washington Post Death Spiral Watch (George F. Will Edition)](https://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/04/washington-po-2.html)**
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> Outsourced to Mark Thoma: \>Economist's View:: George Will tries to talk about Fed policy, but if you don't understand the Fed's goals - and he doesn't - then the analysis of policy will be based on a faulty premise and reach incorrect conclusions....
> **[Grasping Reality on TypePad, by Brad DeLong](https://www.bradford-delong.com/)**
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> The current place where I am posting material is over on the SubStack: http://braddelong.substack.com
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### Author:  [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/5 "2012-11-07T08:38:56Z")
Religion is a matter of faith, not facts.
Same goes for Fox.
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### Author:  [@AlohaBear32](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlohaBear32)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/6 "2012-11-07T08:55:02Z")
> [@Muffin](#):
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> Religion is a matter of faith, not facts.
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> Same goes for Fox.
So…does Fox count as Religious Programming then, like TBN?
_light bulb appears over head_
Ah!..now I FINALLY get it!
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### Author:  [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/7 "2012-11-07T09:40:20Z")
Fox is such a huge part of the Republican machine - I don’t understand how they can still claim to be Fair and Balanced with straight faces, all of em.
Can anyone confirm that Fox took significantly longer than the other networks to call the election for Obama? than I watched the Comedy Central and Washington Post live coverage and they only mentioned it offhandedly.
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### Author:  [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/8 "2012-11-07T09:54:24Z")
> [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](#):
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> Fox is such a huge part of the Republican machine - I don’t understand how they can still claim to be Fair and Balanced with straight faces, all of em.
The same way The Onion can claim to be “America’s Finest News Source”…
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### Author:  [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/9 "2012-11-07T10:00:12Z")
> [@dtilque](#):
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> The same way The Onion can claim to be “America’s Finest News Source”…
There’s tongue in cheek, and then there’s head up ass.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/10 "2012-11-07T10:11:32Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> There’s tongue in cheek, and then there’s head up ass.
It all depends on which cheek your tongue is in, I guess.
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### Author:  [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/11 "2012-11-07T12:14:30Z")
When _all_ the networks, including Fox, had called Obama the winner, I just had to watch Fox for a few more minutes. It was Rove spluttering and repeating himself about …Hamilton County(OH)…don’t count Ohio just yet…
He just couldn’t make himself believe that it was over.
I slept like a baby last night after watching that.
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### Author:  [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/12 "2012-11-07T12:18:49Z")
Well, now Fox know it alls can have something to talk about for at least 4 more years.Perhaps their negative talk helped Obama more than they know!
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### Author:  [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/13 "2012-11-07T12:26:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It all depends on which cheek your tongue is in, I guess.
and whose ass your head is up…
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### Author:  [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/14 "2012-11-07T12:33:17Z")
> [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](#):
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> Fox is such a huge part of the Republican machine - I don’t understand how they can still claim to be Fair and Balanced with straight faces, all of em.
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> Can anyone confirm that Fox took significantly longer than the other networks to call the election for Obama? than I watched the Comedy Central and Washington Post live coverage and they only mentioned it offhandedly.
They officially called it within moments of everyone else. My understanding is that their pundits and anchors were awkwardly arguing Ohio wasn’t ready to be called and that the election wasn’t decided long after. But if you went to [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) it said Obama won as fast as I was able to check after hearing CNN call it.
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### Author:  [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/15 "2012-11-07T12:42:46Z")
> [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](#):
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> Fox is such a huge part of the Republican machine - I don’t understand how they can still claim to be Fair and Balanced with straight faces, all of em.
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> Can anyone confirm that Fox took significantly longer than the other networks to call the election for Obama? than I watched the Comedy Central and Washington Post live coverage and they only mentioned it offhandedly.
FOX called before MSNBC. MSNBC was very conservative when calling swing states. FOX called Ohio before MSNBC.
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### Author:  [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/16 "2012-11-07T13:30:56Z")
> [@samclem](#):
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> When _all_ the networks, including Fox, had called Obama the winner, I just had to watch Fox for a few more minutes. It was Rove spluttering and repeating himself about …Hamilton County(OH)…don’t count Ohio just yet…
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> He just couldn’t make himself believe that it was over.
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> I slept like a baby last night after watching that.
It was very amusing to watch him hem and haw over that one single county, talking about “only 900 votes difference” while the HUGE graphic next to him was showing the overall state vote with a difference of tens of thousands (not to mention right above that it read “Obama wins re-election”). What a fucking douchebag. He needs to go hunting with Dick Cheney.
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### Author:  [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/17 "2012-11-07T13:43:42Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> There’s tongue in cheek, and then there’s head up ass.
😃
If anyone has links to video clips of the choicer moments, I’d love to see them. I really enjoyed reading the play-by-play in the election day thread.
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### Author:  [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/18 "2012-11-07T13:50:25Z")
[Here](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/karl-rove-causes-fox-news-chaos-by-challenging-obama-victory-projection/)’s the Karl Rove thing. Even the on-air anchors were shaking their heads at him.
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### Author:  [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/19 "2012-11-07T14:02:33Z")
> [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](#):
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> Fox is such a huge part of the Republican machine - I don’t understand how they can still claim to be Fair and Balanced with straight faces, all of em.
Karl Rove was integrally involved in their on-air coverage last night. Karl Rove was perhaps the single biggest Romney money guy as the head of the American Crossroads SuperPAC.
Karl Rove was free to stir up controversy about the Ohio call.
There is no doubt that Fox is a Republican operation.
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### Author:  [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gloat-at-fox-news-here/640187/20 "2012-11-07T14:22:49Z")
Here they are on the couch having a major sad: [http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021739963](http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021739963)
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