# Global Crime Journal: FORBIDDEN International Mafia thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 16, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433 "2010-12-16T22:11:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/1 "2010-12-16T22:11:51Z")
Since no one else has started a thread (or maybe Chronos did a couple days ago and I didn’t notice), I figured I would add one for nonplayers and dead people to discuss, criticize, and laugh at the players in the International Mafia thread. Active players in the International Mafia thread, please do not read. Kthxbye. I remember playing random mafia as scum; I defended peeker pretty hard, accused the people who voted for him of being scum, et cetera. It was awesome. I think we only had one scum vote, along with five or six Townies, for him. I think Mahaloth is looking pretty scummy among the New Zealanders. No idea about London. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/2 "2010-12-17T15:52:59Z")
> [@International Mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/452): > > I’m trying to go back and look over London Day 1 a bit more, and something sticks out about **ShadowFacts** ’ claim Yesterday (Post 244). He said: > > Notice the total absence of color. Now, his is the only ‘completely vanilla’ claim so far (i.e. no power and no travel), so that may explain it…or it may have been edited. I know that some folks dislike arguments centered on the language in PMs, but it did stick out at me. Sub apparently missed Natlaw’s claim on the previous page, which was also completely colorless. Also, metagamey, but in my previous game modded by sach, the PMs were very terse. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/3 "2010-12-17T15:58:52Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Also, metagamey, but in my previous game modded by sach, the PMs were very terse. Weird isn’t it? I’m decidedly not terse when playing, but very terse when moderating. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/4 "2010-12-17T21:38:33Z")
Welcome Natlaw and Astral. I did NOT see Natlaw flipping scum. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/5 "2010-12-17T22:36:18Z")
Tom, As an impartial observer, what are your thoughts on the split city setup? Feel free to be brutal if needed. I’d like to hear your thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/6 "2010-12-17T22:37:32Z")
I haven’t really figured it out yet; it’s pretty confusing. I do like the split-mason thing. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/7 "2010-12-19T10:08:20Z")
> [@International Mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/international-mafia/562553/505): > > First thing, Congratulations to the Kiwis! Awesome detective skills! > \ > 2. I don’t see that GuiriEnEspana is that suspicious. They were one of the first to vote for peekercpa, but quickly changed their tune after peeker’s claim and recognized the scummyness of Natlaw. Don’t you just hate when you get lynched as scum for something you would have said if you were town as well? Awesome detective skill was not much more than unvoting a mason and voting the next person who said something that wasn’t 100% neutral. As I said in the game going with ‘plan’ for color instead of ‘motivations’ was a bad decision. And leason learned not to be to direct on Day one and peeker is usually a mason ;). On the split setup: the not-posting-at-all at Night was a bit of surprise. I think the setup favors town abit more but that might be biased because I’m scum. Reason why is because in each sub game town has it’s own unspoiled thread helping them. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/8 "2010-12-19T18:53:02Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > Reason why is because in each sub game town has it’s own unspoiled thread helping them. Yes, but in that unspoiled thread there scum looking to sow confusion. The big advantage of a real unspoiled thread – and one of the big reasons why it needs to be off-limits to players – is that you can be reasonably confident that everybody in the unspoiled is offering honest opinions. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/9 "2010-12-20T20:47:53Z")
I had this nagging feeling that something was missing from this game. Oh yes, here it is. I need a substitute. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/10 "2010-12-20T20:49:21Z")
Do I get to be vanilla? … Please? /in ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/11 "2010-12-20T20:51:25Z")
Done. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/12 "2010-12-20T23:37:20Z")
I’m probably going to need another substitute or two. So if anyone is interested… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/13 "2010-12-21T11:02:57Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Yes, but in that unspoiled thread there scum looking to sow confusion. The big advantage of a real unspoiled thread – and one of the big reasons why it needs to be off-limits to players – is that you can be reasonably confident that everybody in the unspoiled is offering honest opinions. That gives me a game idea: someone who isn’t technically playing being told they can mess up the unspoiled thread. Of course, it would only make sense if there are Townies who can read the thread, and it probably would qualify as Gastard… ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/14 "2010-12-21T21:34:48Z")
Need a substitute or someone is going to get modkilled. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/15 "2010-12-21T22:11:58Z")
Cannot. Crunch time at work and my brother & sister & families are arriving today. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/16 "2010-12-23T01:50:14Z")
If I were in the game, I’d be on Mahaloth like white on rice for his vote post just now. “We should have done this yesterday”? You mean the same yesterday that they lynched Scum? ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/17 "2010-12-28T17:44:08Z")
I’m following the current Mafia game and it is my first experience with this type of game online. I’ve played Mafia with cards, but only 14 people. I didn’t realize it had such a coordinated online presence. I have read all the Mafia background threads, and have also read the Flying Cow of Doom wiki, and I have a question or two that I couldn’t find in any places. 1. When someone mentions “color/colour”, are they talking about the background story and such? So, for example, in post #250 of the International Mafia game ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13246541&postcount=250](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13246541&postcount=250)), is the encrypted message that **sachertorte** put in just part of the color/colour? 2. What is “bleaching”? As in post #216 ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13239795&postcount=216](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13239795&postcount=216)) where it says, “(vote bleached)”. Thanks for answering the n00bie questions. I hope to join the next one of these things. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/18 "2010-12-28T17:50:22Z")
Also, if someone puts “NETA” (which means “Not Edited to Add”) in a post, does that mean that the person simply added text to the end of his/her post and didn’t edit any of the previous paragraphs in that post? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/19 "2010-12-28T17:50:27Z")
> [@BobArrgh](#): > > 1. When someone mentions “color/colour”, are they talking about the background story and such? So, for example, in post #250 of the International Mafia game ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13246541&postcount=250](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13246541&postcount=250)), is the encrypted message that **sachertorte** put in just part of the color/colour? Basically, yeah. The background story, or the text that relates the background story, so people will refer to the “color” in people’s role PMs (and there was some controversy about the lack of color in the quoted role PMs and whether that signified anything). > [@](#): > > 1. What is “bleaching”? As in post #216 ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13239795&postcount=216](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13239795&postcount=216)) where it says, “(vote bleached)”. As a matter of courtesy to the mod (or sometimes this is required by the mod), people when quoting posts in which a vote is made will remove the color tags around the vote. This is referred to as bleaching. (The color tags are usually required for votes to make it easier for the mod to see if a vote has been cast). Edited to Add: NETA is for thoughts that you would have added to or corrected in the immediately previous post if you were allowed to edit. I don’t remember if editing is technically allowed in this game, but regardless it is frowned upon as it can be used to eliminate slips or communicate secretly among scum. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433/20 "2010-12-28T19:43:19Z")
Thanks. I have read the Castle of Crossed Destiny thread on Idle’s board. Sooooo … when is the next game starting? I’d love to give this a try. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-crime-journal-forbidden-international-mafia-thread/564433.md?page=2)