Global Warming And Ruined Florida Wells

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@waddlingeagle

I live in Florida. It’s a nice place, Groucho notwithstanding.

Look, Miami is in trouble even without climate change. The entire state of Florida is karst, and it is rotting from underneath. It is sinking faster than the sea level is rising. I figure my house in central Florida will be beachfront property inside of 100 years.

People are too busy blaming each other for climate change instead of doing anything useful to mitigate its effects. There are, after all, plenty of things we could do beyond driving Priuses. Spraying seawater into the upper atmosphere is cheap and would have a significant cooling effect. Reforestation pulls carbon out of the air.

Solar Geoengineering: Weighing Costs of Blocking the Sun’s Rays

Clearly, there are good reasons for concern. Solar geoengineering would likely make the planet drier, potentially disrupting monsoons in places like India and creating drought in parts of the tropics. The technique could help eat away the protective ozone shield of our planet, and it would cause air pollution. It would also do nothing to counteract the problem of ocean acidification, which occurs when the seas absorb high levels of CO2 from the atmosphere.

Oh, and as the article points out, you do need the climate scientists and the computer models to propose and properly deploy solutions like that one, until many contrarians decide to finally drop their hate for climate scientists and computer models not much will be done.

@waddlingeagle

Paying trillions of dollars to third world dictators who will just use the money to buy yachts, jets, and gas guzzling cars is a lousy way to fight climate change. But, so far, that seems to be the favorite option among the watermelon socialists (green on the outside, red on the inside). We need that money to protect our own cities and our own people.

Clearly you do not check General Questions.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20283366&postcount=32

@GIGObuster

One interesting fact that I like to point out (because of the efforts of others out there that attempt to politicize the issue): equations like that come as the result of work made by scientists like Gilbert Plass in the 1950’s.

http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/2010/1/carbon-dioxide-and-the-climate

Before Plass and others the consensus before the 1960’s was that yes, CO2 and other gases do warm the earth, and while the CO2 was increasing the evidence then pointed at the natural sinks of CO2 to control the issue and the absorption bands of CO2 and other gases were understood enough.

However, almost at the same time, the evidence popped up that the absorption bands were not quite right and that the natural sinks were not doing what was expected. (Cue most of the scientists then thinking: “Oh, S**T!”)
Now, getting back to Plass and the reason to point at his work, Plass and others like him were actually working to make reality and to then improve the new heat seeking missiles being developed, **and what was the main reason (looking at how climate was affected was just Plass wondering if the data could be used for climate) to take a look at how heat was being absorbed in different layers of the atmosphere to make better missiles? To shoot down those commie planes during the Korean war. **

To me it is an important fact to point out because, sadly, many contrarians out there do launch accusations to the ones doing climate research or the ones proposing changes as being communists, fascists or enemies of freedom. As well as to point out to the contrarians that this is not a new idea.

Bold added, and I may add that I have to say that I did see that watermelon analogy used against the Cristian Democrats in El Salvador back in the 80’s (Green was their color used in their flag. By then the real communists and plain people that demanded change had taken to arms and even the moderates like the Christian democrats were demonized by the right). As the Truth commissions showed, the extreme right then (in the USA and in El Salvador) used analogies like that to demonize others falsely and to justify the killing of a lot of politicians that did not have any communistic leanings.

Of course that “watermelon” analogy was also used against environmentalists further in the past in the USA but the Point here is that you need to be aware of how many others are aware of the hate contained in that analogy.