# Global warming question(s) **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 5, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003 "2009-01-05T22:18:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/21 "2009-01-07T04:04:55Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > It comes from [this article](http://www.grisda.org/origins/10051.htm), which may also be of interest. Originally published in [Origins](http://www.biblicalcreation.org.uk/bcs_publications/bcs071.html), the journal of the Biblical Creation Society. Tkachuck’s affiliation is with the [Geoscience Research Institute](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoscience_Research_Institute): > [@](#): > > The Geoscience Research Institute (GRI), located on the campus of Loma Linda University in California, is an official institute of the Seventh-day Adventist Church which engages in creation science, and serves the church in the areas of research and communication. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/22 "2009-01-07T04:22:08Z")
I started a thread in Great Debates here: > **[Polar Ice and Iceland](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=500631)** > > Here is a graph which purports to show the prevalence of polar ice at the coast of Iceland over the last millenium or so: http://www.grisda.org/origins/images/10058-1h.gif I believe that the graph is probably correct, mainly because (1) I can’t... I’m interested to see if anyone actually disputes the graph. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/23 "2009-01-07T14:21:11Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I started a thread in Great Debates here: > > [Polar Ice and Iceland - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=500631) > > I’m interested to see if anyone actually disputes the graph. What do you believe the graph is showing out of interest? It does not really relate to “retreating ice at the poles” or Greenland as this thread is about. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/24 "2009-01-07T17:29:53Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > What do you believe the graph is showing out of interest? It does not really relate to “retreating ice at the poles” or Greenland as this thread is about. I disagree. The graph clearly contains the words “polar ice” in the legend. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/25 "2009-01-07T17:36:51Z")
Yes, but it’s a meaningless chart without showing where and how that data was collected. Anyone could make up any thing they wanted too and chart it. Or the data could be a collection of meta-data and extrapolation that is cherry picking different data, or using different scales. There is no way to know just by looking at that chart what, if anything, it actually means. All I want to know is how the conditions today in Greenland differ from those in Greenland during the medieval warming period. I’m trying to get a handle on how MUCH ice has melted both in the polar regions and on Greenland at this point. As a further question I’d like to know how much of Greenland COULD melt. Half? All? Something else? -XT ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/26 "2009-01-07T18:24:01Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > As a further question I’d like to know how much of Greenland COULD melt. Half? All? Something else? All of it _could_ melt, but even in most worst-case scenarios of climate scientists that would take several centuries. However, Greenland’s current rate of melting is exceeding some of these supposed worst-case scenarios. [Greenland’s glaciers losing ice at faster rate](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11385475/) ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/27 "2009-01-07T18:36:15Z")
Yeah, that’s what I figured. I was watching a show on Discovery about engineering mega eco solutions too the planets problems. One guy had the idea of putting down huge white colored blankets in Greenland to save the glaciers…or at least slow down the melting. He was showing huge new ice lakes out on the glaciers that are highly unstable (I guess a hole can rapidly appear in the lake that drains all the water down to under the glacier, causing it to move more rapidly or to even fracture suddenly :eek:). The show got me to thinking…how much ice has already melted and how much land that was currently buried is now exposed. And is it more exposed today than it was during the Viking period? Is it warmer there now than it was then? Which was why I started this thread…to find the answers. -XT ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/28 "2009-01-07T18:49:34Z")
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/29 "2009-01-07T18:53:44Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Probably the issue of what should or shouldn’t be disclosed would be better to discuss in the debate thread I opened. [Moderating] I agree. Let’s not turn this thread into a general debate about global warming. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/30 "2009-01-07T18:54:11Z")
Agreed. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/31 "2009-01-07T18:56:17Z")
To clarify the previous three posts, it appears that **brazil84** edited his post after I replied to it with a quote. ---
**Author:** ![butler1850](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@butler1850](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butler1850)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003/32 "2009-01-07T20:37:35Z")
> [@Baffle](#): > > On this link there appears to be a circular melt spot directly above the North Pole. Why is this there? It’s the top secret S.A.N.T.A project. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question-s/480003.md?page=1)