# Global warming question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 2, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861 "2008-03-02T17:54:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/1 "2008-03-02T17:54:28Z")

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I was reading comments on an AOL news story yesterday where someone claimed that several other planets in our solar system are also experiencing warming across their globes, just like Earth. Is there any truth to this?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/2 "2008-03-02T19:32:13Z")

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One of the outer gas giants, [Neptune is moving into spring,](http://amazing-space.stsci.edu/news/archive/2003/01/) so it’s getting warmer there.

Ice melted or sublimed at the south pole of Mars last southern summer. Some have made much climactic hay over this fact, despite it being normal behavior. We’ve only a couple rovers and a satellite or three with which to measure martian climate, and those for only a few years. Anything anyone says about martian climate is thus highly suspect.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/3 "2008-03-02T20:10:32Z")

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Mars:

> **[RealClimate: Global warming on Mars?](https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/10/global-warming-on-mars/langswitch_lang/en/)**
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> RealClimate: Guest contribution by Steinn Sigurdsson. Recently, there have been some suggestions that "global warming" has been observed on Mars (e.g. here). These are based on observations of regional change around the South Polar Cap, but seem to...

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/4 "2008-03-02T22:36:13Z")

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[Mars warming.](http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html) Good luck trying to convince the whackos.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/5 "2008-03-02T23:23:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Leaffan]  
[Mars warming.](http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html) Good luck trying to convince the whackos.  
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Care to clarify who you mean by “the whackos?”

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/6 "2008-03-03T02:37:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Leaffan]  
[Mars warming.](http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html) Good luck trying to convince the whackos.  
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Thanks for the link. Apparently the last few months have been quite cold on the Earth. If this keeps up, it will be interesting to see if Mars follows suit.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/7 "2008-03-03T03:13:59Z")

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[QUOTE=brazil84]  
Thanks for the link. Apparently the last few months have been quite cold on the Earth. If this keeps up, it will be interesting to see if Mars follows suit.  
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Because those small corollary data points will be enough to tell what exactly?

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/8 "2008-03-03T09:09:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
One of the outer gas giants, [Neptune is moving into spring,](http://amazing-space.stsci.edu/news/archive/2003/01/) so it’s getting warmer there.  
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You mean the southern hemisphere of Neptune is moving into spring. The northern hemisphere is moving into autumn. It’s getting colder there. It’s just that we can’t see much of that hemisphere, since it’s tilted away from us. We can mainly see the southern hemisphere, so that’s what they’re measuring.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/9 "2008-03-03T09:56:53Z")

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[QUOTE=brazil84]  
Thanks for the link. Apparently the last few months have been quite cold on the Earth. If this keeps up, it will be interesting to see if Mars follows suit.  
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If you compare the [output of the sun](http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=180) to [earth over the same period](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png), there’s no obvious relationship.

Of course, that’s dependent on having trust in any peer reviewed scientific data at all.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/10 "2008-03-03T10:35:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Eonwe]  
Because those small corollary data points will be enough to tell what exactly?  
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Sorry, but I think we’re straying into debate territory. I’d be interested to discuss what significance – if any – a simultaneous shift to cooling on both Earth and other planets would have if this thread gets moved to Debates.

> [@Sage Rat](#):
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> If you compare the output of the sun to earth over the same period, there’s no obvious relationship.

I have some thoughts on this subject too, but again, I think I will wait until this thread gets moved.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-question/439861/11 "2008-03-03T18:27:51Z")

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[QUOTE=brazil84]  
Sorry, but I think we’re straying into debate territory. I’d be interested to discuss what significance – if any – a simultaneous shift to cooling on both Earth and other planets would have if this thread gets moved to Debates.

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Well, no offense, but your post didn’t add any ‘General Questions’ response at all; it was a thank you and a hint at a debatable position. If you didn’t want to talk about it in GQ you shouldn’t have brought it up.
