# GlowingDarkness, you are a vile, hateful, turd

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870 "2016-05-28T02:17:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/1 "2016-05-28T02:17:29Z")

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I saw this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19363402#post19363402) about United Flight 93 and said, “OK, just another 9/11 conspiracy nutter.” But then you shat on the memory of the victims of the attacks with these two pieces of garbage:

> [@Why did the hijackers on Flight 93 make so many "mistakes"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-the-hijackers-on-flight-93-make-so-many-mistakes/755800/39):
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> They were fools who were so arrogant as to think that saving a few lives would have meant anything. I think someone needs to tell that to the family members. The world would not have ended if 5000 people as opposed to 3000 died that day. America would still be a country. Only a few weak minded family members would mourn.
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> And they certainly crashed the plane for nothing. Will they get special rewards in heaven. Unlikely. At least the hijackers did it for something they believed in. Defeating what they called the ‘Great Satan’

> [@Why did the hijackers on Flight 93 make so many "mistakes"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-the-hijackers-on-flight-93-make-so-many-mistakes/755800/43):
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> 9/11 was pretty minor. And now we can laugh at how funny the whole thing was. Americans getting scared over planes flying into buildings. I mean come on… How can anyone be shocked after a plane hits the South Tower? Were citizens that ignorant.
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> There should be IMO, no memorial built for anyone who died on 9/11. Life sucks and tough shit happens. The hijackers memorials should be sent back to their respective countries. And well lets move on. Here’s a funny meme involving Kanye West.
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> [https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2F7.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr\_kpze8bgjMk1qzl3s5o1\_500.jpg&sp=2d02645a2ae88203f49202a1dc3bcb83](https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2F7.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_kpze8bgjMk1qzl3s5o1_500.jpg&sp=2d02645a2ae88203f49202a1dc3bcb83)

**GlowingDorkness** , you are a vile, hateful troll watching the monkeys dance for your pathetic amusement. I hope you never experience the pain and loss of family members and friends under tragic circumstances such as happened on September 11, 2001. May your continued participation on these message boards be short and miserable.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/2 "2016-05-28T02:28:28Z")

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Yup. Another self-impressed conspiracy edgelord, here to show us how we are wrong and how radical and shocking he is.  
Just like the rest of them.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/3 "2016-05-28T03:02:53Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> **GlowingDorkness** , you are a vile, hateful troll watching the monkeys dance for your pathetic amusement.

You honestly don’t see the irony in creating a second pit thread about him to say this?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/4 "2016-05-28T03:17:04Z")

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There’s also this post:

> [@Why did the hijackers on Flight 93 make so many "mistakes"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-the-hijackers-on-flight-93-make-so-many-mistakes/755800/44):
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> > [@Why did the hijackers on Flight 93 make so many "mistakes"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-the-hijackers-on-flight-93-make-so-many-mistakes/755800/42):
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> > So what you think the Flight 93 passengers should have done instead, since resistance was “arrogant” and “for nothing?” Should they have just sat passively in their seats?
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> Yeah, that’s what I would have done. Cooperate with the authority present there. Just have relaxed. It would habe been funny to watch them shout “Allahu Akbar” as they approached the Capitol and knowing your plane is being guided by 19 men out on the biggest suicide mission in history is well; Interesting.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/5 "2016-05-28T03:18:37Z")

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So you’re thinking troll?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/6 "2016-05-28T03:46:24Z")

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I read about the first third of the thread in question, and that was enough to establish, IMHO, that this guy is likely to go down like Flight 93 before very long.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/7 "2016-05-28T04:26:37Z")

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Definitely posting for maximum reaction.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/8 "2016-05-28T04:35:08Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> You honestly don’t see the irony in creating a second pit thread about him to say this?

Nope, because I didn’t see another thread about him. Anyway, I felt his posts in the thread I cited deserved special attention.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/9 "2016-05-28T04:43:28Z")

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Trolls aren’t cowards …

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/10 "2016-05-28T04:48:34Z")

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Is it “starve a fever, force-feed a troll like a French duck,” or do I have it backward?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/11 "2016-05-28T05:28:34Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Is it “starve a fever, force-feed a troll like a French duck,” or do I have it backward?

I’m going with backward.

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**Author:** ![GlowingDarkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f04885/32.png) [@GlowingDarkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GlowingDarkness)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/12 "2016-05-28T06:10:14Z")

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You guys do realize thay I’m not trolling at all. If I libed in the US and met some of you guys I **would** say this stuff.

Its hard for Americans to comprehend, but not every human being believes that good and evil are so clearly black and white. I don’t believe the hijackers were evil. Just perhaps misguided. I will say this again. I **genuinely** believe this. And you know some things like 9/11 are bound to happen. Its better to accept it.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/13 "2016-05-28T06:29:50Z")

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> [@GlowingDarkness](#):
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> You guys do realize thay I’m not trolling at all. If I libed in the US and met some of you guys I **would** say this stuff.
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> Its hard for Americans to comprehend, but not every human being believes that good and evil are so clearly black and white. I don’t believe the hijackers were evil. Just perhaps misguided. I will say this again. I **genuinely** believe this. And you know some things like 9/11 are bound to happen. Its better to accept it.

No, it’s not. It’s better to fight back against terrorists and fuckers like you who sympathize with them.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/14 "2016-05-28T06:33:19Z")

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> [@GlowingDarkness](#):
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> . . . not every human being believes that good and evil are so clearly black and white.

You apparently do. But you’ve got the good and evil reversed.

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**Author:** ![GlowingDarkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f04885/32.png) [@GlowingDarkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GlowingDarkness)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/15 "2016-05-28T06:34:44Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> You apparently do. But you’ve got the good and evil reversed.

So your saying that I’ve made up my own moral standards of good and evil, right?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/16 "2016-05-28T06:48:19Z")

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> [@GlowingDarkness](#):
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> You guys do realize thay I’m not trolling at all. If I libed in the US and met some of you guys I **would** say this stuff.
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> Its hard for Americans to comprehend, but not every human being believes that good and evil are so clearly black and white. I don’t believe the hijackers were evil. Just perhaps misguided. I will say this again. I **genuinely** believe this. And you know some things like 9/11 are bound to happen. Its better to accept it.

As somebody who traveled from the Midwest to New York City a few months after 9/11, and looked at the remains of Ground Zero, I can honestly say that things like this don’t _have_ to happen. I stood there, looking at a giant crater, thinking about how fucking senseless it was. I started crying. I was trying to reconcile the death of my father a year before (almost to the day of my visit to Ground Zero). My dad never went to New York. But he was a retired firefighter, and any day that he went to work, we faced the possibility that we would never see him again.

In a sense, my dad was my hero. He was, unbeknownst to him, one of the main reasons that I went and became an EMT.

So, as I stood there, thinking about not just the people who died on the planes, or in the buildings, but about the rescue workers who rushed in to a situation that (I’m sure they knew) would lead to their own deaths to save people they had never met before. And how firefighters, police, and military personnel put themselves in the position where their kids may grow up without a father. So that someone else’s children don’t have to experience that.

People tend to think of the cops, firefighters and such as heroes. And they are. They do things that the majority of us couldn’t do, and they see things that most people just can’t fucking comprehend.

But they’re not the only heroes. Those people are trained, and paid (though, in my opinion, woefully underpaid) for one reason: they know that, over the course of their career, there are going to be a few instances where their action or inaction will make the difference between someone living or dying, and they get paid not to shit themselves when those moments arrive.

It seems to me that a group of people, staring death in the face (no matter if they rushed the hijackers or sat still), willfully deciding that they were willing to do everything to make sure that no one else outside of that plane had to die?

Those people are fucking heroes.

Maybe you disagree. But you are wrong.

I spit on you. I spit on everything that you stand for, and on what you hold dear. I spit in your children’s eyes. While I don’t wish death or harm on you or your kids (if you have them), I do wish for you to have to bury every single one of them. And I hope you bury a little fucking piece of that black lump you call a heart with every one of them.

When it is your turn to die, I hope it comes painfully, with medication that doesn’t help. I hope it takes years, in the most degrading and embarrassing ways possible.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glowingdarkness-you-are-a-vile-hateful-turd/755870/17 "2016-05-28T07:31:01Z")

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Since the subject of the OP is no longer with us, I’m closing this.
