We can test down to “<5ppm” with the sandwich R5 ELISA, and indeed some people wonder if we should reset the “gluten free” claim down to that level. So far, the science hasn’t shown it to be necessary - <20ppm and <5ppm don’t have clinically significantly different outcomes.
But science, it is always a-changing, so next year (or next month) guidelines may change.
True enough, the difference between 5ppm and 20ppm is not worth much fuss. Antibody tests do not work well on fragments. So if ELISA shown less than 5, Mass Spec might show greater than 20 on the same sample… At that level everything gets a bit dodgy…
Not exactly. If you drink two beers with 19ppm gluten, you still only consumed 19ppm. However, the 20ppm was based on an assumption of normal consumption and a study that indicated that 10mg of gluten per day did not cause problems.
Possibly. But check back with me when the mania passes and we’re talking about the very small number of people actually affected and a medical consensus that isn’t occupied with time on talk shows.
Thanks for clarifying. I realize the way I wrote that was kind of confusing. Yes, “it adds up” was meant to refer to the total number of gluten molecules, not their dilution.
That’s what the current consensus of studies indicates, yes. Incidence - whether of occurrence or diagnosis is not clear - has risen about four-to-five-fold in the last few decades.
I cannot locate the references I had for ca. 1:4500 occurrence, but they were from valid studies. I’ll withdraw the claim, but let’s all meet here in five years or so and see how much was fact and how much was (frankly, marketing-driven) hysteria/fad.
1 in 5700 is very much out of date, as estimates go. That’s from pre-2000, when better testing became available and atypical Celiac Disease (without GI symptoms but with iron deficiency, osteoporosis, short stature and infertility caused by gluten intake) was recognized as another form of Celiac Disease.
Is there a lot of faddish, eye-rollingly irritating anti-gluten propaganda? Absolutely. But Celiac Disease - diagnosable Celiac Disease - has a prevalence in the US that’s not to be ignored.
And it’s about the same in Western European countries.
No, gluten will not evaporate at any temperature. It is a protein. It will break down into components that are not gluten, long before any of those components evaporate. The components themselves are to be found in all proteins. It is only the particular arrangement of them in gluten to which gluten sensitive people react.
No, you have it backwards. In distilling, the alcohol (and certain other volatile organic compounds that give it flavor), boil off before the water. Your whiskey, vodka or whatever is condensed from the alcoholic vapors that boil off first (plus a small amount of the water which is allowed to boil off and is condensed with it). Most of the water, (plus any low-volatility solid dissolved in it) is left behind as a waste product. Any gluten that is in the original mix (and I doubt whether there is much there in the first place - it is not very soluble) will be left behind too (and, very likely, will mostly have already been broken down, or at least denatured, by the heat).
I’m not aware of any commercial distillation that would transfer gluten. A short-path setup could transfer it via an aerosol. That also doesn’t bar other sources of contamination.
It is a double edged sword. I was diagnosed via biopsy eight years ago and it was difficult to find foods labeled gluten free. Now they are everywhere, including things that are naturally gluten free. At the same time, the fad aspect can lead to people not taking it seriously.
FWIW - I did not seek a diagnosis based on GI symptoms, it was just an elimination of options for some liver issues. In retrospect I understood why I was sick at seeming random times.
Why do you care? Are you a non-celiac, non-gluten-sensitive individual being forced to live on gluten-free products?
Given WhyNot’s University of Chicago link, we’re talking roughly the same number of people dealing with diabetes. We’re talking more individuals with celiac disease than those with Epilepsy (2.7 million), Parkinson’s Disease (1 million), and Rheumatoid Arthritis (2.1 million). Oh, and if you’re unlucky enough (me) to be diagnosed after 20 years of age, you have a 34% chance of developing another auto-immune disorder on top of your celiac. Further, my suspicion is that this link is JUST in reference to celiac, not inclusive of those with a gluten sensitivity, nor of family members of those with celiac who go gluten free to support their kid/sibling, who also benefit from a wider variety of known gluten-free (within the limits of testing) products.