# Gmail and Thunderbird

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 3, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907 "2008-03-03T03:48:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907/1 "2008-03-03T03:48:54Z")

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Anyone using Thunderbird 2.0 with gmail? Win XP with SP 2. The following settings work for Outlook 2003, but I can only get mail with TB, not send.

[pop.gmail.com](http://pop.gmail.com) port 995, SSL  
[smtp.gmail.com](http://smtp.gmail.com) port 465, SSL

Thanks,  
CP

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907/2 "2008-03-03T04:30:32Z")

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your ISP probably may not allow you to use any smtp except their own

edit: oops, see now you got it to work with outlook, scratch my thought

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907/3 "2008-03-03T04:43:12Z")

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[QUOTE=IAmNotSpartacus]  
edit: oops, see now you got it to work with outlook, scratch my thought  
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And the ISP, [Wildblue,](http://www.wildblue.com/) changed their email over to gmail, damn their eyes. 🙂

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**Author:** ![kellner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c2a13f/32.png) [@kellner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellner)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907/4 "2008-03-03T04:51:24Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
[smtp.gmail.com](http://smtp.gmail.com) port 465, SSL  
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Port 587 and “TLS, if possible” (or whatever that’s called in English) work for me.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907/5 "2008-03-03T21:03:12Z")

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Same port as Kellner, “TLS” option selected (not “TLS, if available”).

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907/6 "2008-03-04T01:05:27Z")

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I’m using 2.0.0.12, and when I went in to set up my Gmail account using these instructions\*, it gave GMail as a separate option in the account type, and loaded all of these settings in by default.

\*I don’t use it much, and hadn’t thought about putting it in my Thunderbird app before.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gmail-and-thunderbird/439907/7 "2008-03-04T01:20:42Z")

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[QUOTE=SCSimmons]  
I’m using 2.0.0.12, and when I went in to set up my Gmail account using these instructions\*, it gave GMail as a separate option in the account type, and loaded all of these settings in by default.  
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Thanks, Kellner. I saw that, too SC after I read Kellner’s post. I am up and running.