# gms453 is a troll. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116 "2012-10-08T18:55:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/81 "2012-10-10T01:13:25Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > I still feel like people are pinning more than the fair share of blame on one poster. There were lots of posters in that thread who had less than kind things to say about Foxy40’s life decisions… > This pitting is making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, there were, and gms still stood out, did you notice? It’s not about being mean, really. It’s about the nasty little assumptions implicit in the question, and the smug little attitude in the repetition (note that it is still going on), and … oh, shudder .. > [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Huh? Pregnancy _is_ always the fault of the woman. It’s also always the fault of the man. (Barring the obvious exceptions). Although fault of may be a poor choice of words; responsibility of, or “result of the actions of” may be better. That, I think, is what people took offense at, the choice of words. Everyone was wondering why Roxy hooked up with the guy. > [@gms453](#): > > 1. You sound like my mommy. > > 2. I WAS just asking. > > 3. Cites? > > 4. The question I posed was in response to her revelation that she always knew the father of her child was a worthless, good-for-nothing bum. All I asked was, if she knew that, why did she allow him to impregnate her. She had said nothing about the pregnancy being unexpected until, in response to my question, she told me it was an accident (birth control failure). Furthermore, nothing in her response indicates that she thought I was trying to “trash” her. > > 5. My question assumes that, except for rape, women can control with whom they engage in coitus. If I am wrong…please…educate me. 1. Was that a very bad pun, or do you really live that far back in the cave? 2. No, you weren’t, or you wouldn’t have used the words “allow” and “impregnate”, and as everyone knows that, you should admit it. 3. No, you go back and provide a cites for every comment you made about other posters. 4. I know what you said; every knows what you said. It pissed a lot of people off. We assume that’s what you wanted. 5. Why do you insist on conflating sex with pregnancy? They are not the same. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/82 "2012-10-10T01:28:27Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Why the fuck didn’t your parents smother you in your crib, so we hard-working folks wouldn’t be forced to give up our money to keep your withered ass sucking air year after year? > > Apparently they were too stupid to foresee you’d end up a net drain on society, caterwauling about your neighbors’ specks while straddling your own stinking log. Well aren’t you a little ray of sunshine? Feeling overworked or something? Hardly my fault, but do be sure to let us know when you retire so we can complain about being forced “to give up our money to keep your withered ass sucking air year after year” m’k? Not that it’s true but it sure sounds good doesn’t it? As for net drain on society, having worked (sometimes 2-3 jobs) for decades, and having not produced children that are a major drain on society for at least 18 years each, I’d say I’m way ahead of most folks in this net worth contest of yours. And re my neighbor’s specks, I have no idea what you are on about. But yeah, you go ahead and threadshit all you want, I’ve got beer and NCIS will be on in an hour and a half. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/83 "2012-10-10T01:55:14Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > But yeah, you go ahead and threadshit all you want, I’ve got beer and NCIS will be on in an hour and a half. You’re welcome for the beer. ~A Taxpayer ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/84 "2012-10-10T02:00:15Z")
> [@j666](#): > > Yes, there were, and gms still stood out, did you notice? It’s not about being mean, really. It’s about the nasty little assumptions implicit in the question, and the smug little attitude in the repetition (note that it is still going on), and … oh, shudder .. > That, I think, is what people took offense at, the choice of words. Everyone was wondering why Roxy hooked up with the guy. > > 1. Was that a very bad pun, or do you really live that far back in the cave? > 2. No, you weren’t, or you wouldn’t have used the words “allow” and “impregnate”, and as everyone knows that, you should admit it. > 3. No, you go back and provide a cites for every comment you made about other posters. > 4. I know what you said; every knows what you said. It pissed a lot of people off. We assume that’s what you wanted. > 5. Why do you insist on conflating sex with pregnancy? They are not the same. 1. Neither. 2. Well…actually…I was. 3. Why? She claimed I said certain things about others which I did not. I simply asked her to provide cites to substantiate those claims. I am still waiting to hear back from her on this. 4. I agree; I agree. Oh, well. Not at all. 5. I don’t, but just in case YOU’RE not sure about the connection between the two: Having one sometimes results in the other, especially if you’re not careful. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/85 "2012-10-10T02:32:44Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > You’re welcome for the beer. > > ~A Taxpayer Well, you didn’t buy it, so… It’s amazing the ignorance that is displayed in here. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/86 "2012-10-10T02:35:19Z")
> [@gms453](#): > > Let me guess: Right after you submitted this post you stomped out of the room in a huff, locked yourself in your bedroom, and refused to talk to anybody for the next four hours. Yeah, he did that while you were wiping the soup off of your (fake) monocle. ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/87 "2012-10-10T02:45:10Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Yeah, he did that while you were wiping the soup off of your (fake) monocle. Funny, but inaccurate: I didn’t have soup and the monocle is real. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/88 "2012-10-10T04:15:05Z")
> [@gms453](#): > > 1. I don’t, but just in case YOU’RE not sure about the connection between the two: Having one sometimes results in the other, **especially if you’re not careful**. And that’s what it’s all about, isn’t it? Not “oh, my” curiosity. She wasn’t _ **“careful”** _. She got what she deserved? She made her bed, now she has to lie in it? Even, she’s no better than she should be? So, do you mean “careful”? I ask, because you seem a little confused about some words. Like “conflate”, because your certainly have been conflating sex and pregnancy, and “allow”. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/89 "2012-10-10T10:11:19Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > as a general rule, I don’t approve of being nice to people 4chan, due West of here. > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I mean, if that was the case then it would be fair to paint you as someone who is trying to scam the government out of disability payments you don’t really deserve because you’re not really disabled. For the record, I don’t believe that. Many people here have decided that about you based on a few threads. Not fun, is it? Does she claim to have a physical disability? On a more serious note, O’Reilly claims disability claims have doubled under Obama’s administration, despite no changes in assessment (the most common being arthritis for seniors). Probably because he’s the antichrist. > [@curlcoat](#): > > And re my neighbor’s specks, I have no idea what you are on about. Matthew 7:5. Jesus didn’t really care about whether someone’s rig was overclocked, in case you were wondering. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/90 "2012-10-10T12:42:40Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Probably because he’s the antichrist. Nope, [he even fails at that](http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/why-obama-least-efficient-antichrist-ever/). ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/91 "2012-10-10T14:27:43Z")
> [@gms453](#): > > Let me guess: Right after you submitted this post you stomped out of the room in a huff, locked yourself in your bedroom, and refused to talk to anybody for the next four hours. You’re certainly painting yourself in a lovely shade of asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/92 "2012-10-10T14:30:09Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Ooh! Ooh! Do the “u mad bro?” one next! > [@gms453](#): > > Let me guess: Right after you submitted this post you stomped out of the room in a huff, locked yourself in your bedroom, and refused to talk to anybody for the next four hours. > [@Morgenstern](#): > > You’re certainly painting yourself in a lovely shade of asshole. FTW! ---
**Author:** ![Foxy40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Foxy40](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foxy40)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/93 "2012-10-10T18:01:46Z")
Thank you for this. Yes, GMS453 is either a troll or very stupid. Which is why I pretty much ignored him in my thread. So here’s a few reminders to GMS453 1. Women don’t have to be madly in love and planning to spend the rest of their lives with someone in order to be sexually involved with them. 2. Pregnancy while sexually active is not 100% preventable. 3. It is every woman’s right to CHOOSE whether or not she terminates a pregnancy. 4. It is also a woman’s right to choose whether or not she feels marrying the father of the child is in the best interests of all involved. 5. Lastly, it is every woman’s right to protect herself in the event things don’t go well and the happily ever after doesn’t happen for whatever reason. I would assume these things are quite obvious so I didn’t feel the need to expand on them in my thread. However, since you are quite clearly uninformed to a human beings right to be sexual and continue an unexpected pregnancy, I am happy to assist in educating you on the issues. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/94 "2012-10-10T19:43:00Z")
> [@gms453](#): > > At first I thought this post was just silly, but now I think it’s kind of scary. :dubious: I was following Vinyl’s lead - he referenced your pyloric valve, which (IIRC) is a reference to Confederacy of Dunces. So I made another reference, here’s the entire thing: > [@](#): > > “I suspect that beneath your offensively and vulgarly effeminate façade there may be a soul of sorts. Have you read widely in Boethius?" > “Who? Oh, heavens no. I never even read newspapers.” > “Then you must begin a reading program immediately so that you may understand the crises of our age,” Ignatius said solemnly. “Begin with the late Romans, including Boethius, of course. Then you should dip rather extensively into early Medieval. You may skip the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. That is mostly dangerous propaganda. Now that I think of it, you had better skip the Romantics and the Victorians, too. For the contemporary period, you should study some selected comic books.” > “You’re fantastic.” > "I recommend Batman especially, for he tends to transcend the abysmal society in which he’s found himself. His morality is rather rigid, also. I rather respect Batman.” ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/95 "2012-10-11T01:08:26Z")
> [@j666](#): > > And that’s what it’s all about, isn’t it? Not “oh, my” curiosity. > > She wasn’t _ **“careful”** _. > > She got what she deserved? She made her bed, now she has to lie in it? Even, she’s no better than she should be? > > So, do you mean “careful”? I ask, because you seem a little confused about some words. Like “conflate”, because your certainly have been conflating sex and pregnancy, and “allow”. Maybe for you; not for me. I don’t know and I don’t care, but if you do, FL’s answer to my query was that she was on the pill at the time. Again, I don’t know and I don’t care (and I’m bemused by your irrational insistence that I must). Your harangue about me considering sex (ie., coitus) and pregnancy the same thing is patently absurd. They are not the same thing, but-obviously-are connected. For those of you who have difficulty grasping the obvious, here’s how: A person who engages in sex and does not want their doing so to result in pregnancy should be careful. ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/96 "2012-10-11T02:01:58Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You’re certainly painting yourself in a lovely shade of asshole. I’m surprised that you posted this. Surely you know that the use of mixed metaphors is frowned upon by all those who have even a modicum of intelligence and education. ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/97 "2012-10-11T02:12:59Z")
> [@Foxy40](#): > > Thank you for this. Yes, GMS453 is either a troll or very stupid. Which is why I pretty much ignored him in my thread. So here’s a few reminders to GMS453 > > 1. Women don’t have to be madly in love and planning to spend the rest of their lives with someone in order to be sexually involved with them. > 2. Pregnancy while sexually active is not 100% preventable. > 3. It is every woman’s right to CHOOSE whether or not she terminates a pregnancy. > 4. It is also a woman’s right to choose whether or not she feels marrying the father of the child is in the best interests of all involved. > 5. Lastly, it is every woman’s right to protect herself in the event things don’t go well and the happily ever after doesn’t happen for whatever reason. > > I would assume these things are quite obvious so I didn’t feel the need to expand on them in my thread. However, since you are quite clearly uninformed to a human beings right to be sexual and continue an unexpected pregnancy, I am happy to assist in educating you on the issues. 1. I never said they did. 2. I’ve always known that; apparently, you had to find out the hard way. 3. I never said it wasn’t. 4. I never said it wasn’t. 5. I never said it wasn’t. I am stunned by the cupidity displayed in your post, particularly since your answer to the one and only question I ever asked you was so simple, straightforward and on point. As for your offer to help educate me on the issues, given your track record, I think I’ll pass. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/98 "2012-10-11T03:34:39Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I’m always glad to see you here trying your hardest to make the world a better place! Once again, how would having the answer to that help the situation today? If she drops to her knees and says “Curlcoat, please forgive me for being stupid when I was young and having a child with a bum!” would you be satisfied? At this point in time where time machines do not exist, what good does it serve to continually harp on this one point? I mean what point besides you getting to feel smug about your choices in life? Uh, did you not notice that I was trying to interpret what someone else said, guesses as to what **gms453** meant by the question that started this Pit thread? I personally have not said a thing to the OP of the original thread, whose name I have totally forgotten, so you coming in and blathering on about her dropping to her knees and time machines has zero to do with what you quoted of my post. > [@](#): > > I see someone who is frustrated and feels guilty about how her child has allegedly been treated by the father and is glad she had the presence of mind to have a prenup. You read the words and saw one thing, I read them and saw another. I bet neither one of us can even guess at all of the reasons for all of it because (hold on to yourself curly) you can’t know someone’s character, reasons, and all about their lives by a few paragraphs about a topic. My only issue with the OP of the original thread is that she looked like she was gloating about leaving her husband in the lurch, and I was in no way alone in that. Anything else I’ve posted in here as been in regards to what **gms453** has said. > [@](#): > > I mean, if that was the case then it would be fair to paint you as someone who is trying to scam the government out of disability payments you don’t really deserve because you’re not really disabled. For the record, I don’t believe that. Many people here have decided that about you based on a few threads. Not fun, is it? I don’t really care what a bunch of strangers on the internet want to believe about me, but I will point out that anyone that thinks I’m scamming the government doesn’t know diddly about SSDI. Yes, there are twits here who have decided that about me based on a couple of _posts_, but I’m quite sure they only do that because they don’t like my views on the children of today. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/99 "2012-10-11T03:40:58Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Does she claim to have a physical disability? I don’t “claim” it, I do. Been on SSDI since 2007. > [@](#): > > Matthew 7:5. Jesus didn’t really care about whether someone’s rig was overclocked, in case you were wondering. Which has zero to do with what you quoted and makes no sense, so I can only assume you are drinking? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116/100 "2012-10-11T03:51:38Z")
> [@gms453](#): > > I’m surprised that you posted this. Surely you know that the use of mixed metaphors is frowned upon by all those who have even a modicum of intelligence and education. But you don’t disagree with the part about you being an asshole? At least I got that right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gms453-is-a-troll/637116.md?page=6)