# GnR 2016 Tour **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 7, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453 "2016-04-07T15:34:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/1 "2016-04-07T15:34:01Z")
So will be the first time Axl, Slash and Duff have toured together since 1993. Will they be able to stay together through the tour? Who’s going? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/2 "2016-04-07T15:48:16Z")
I’m trying to talk myself out of the $1745 Welcome to The Jungle Pit Experience tickets for FedEx Field. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/3 "2016-04-07T15:53:47Z")
IMO it still ain’t G’n’R without Izzy. He wasn’t just a rhythm guitarist, Izzy’s part was a distinctive layer that brought it all together. If you pan the speakers all the way left or right on _Appetite_ or _Illusions_, you can hear that Izzy and Slash are definitely not playing the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/4 "2016-04-07T15:54:41Z")
I honestly don’t think this tour will go on as planned. It may start, there may be some shows, but I don’t see it reaching it’s regularly-scheduled conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/5 "2016-04-07T16:48:45Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > IMO it still ain’t G’n’R without Izzy. He wasn’t just a rhythm guitarist, Izzy’s part was a distinctive layer that brought it all together. If you pan the speakers all the way left or right on _Appetite_ or _Illusions_, you can hear that Izzy and Slash are definitely not playing the same thing. And he wrote songs. This will be a hot mess. The only thing I would pay for is the popcorn I need to sit back and watch this next episode of “Real Housewives of Gn’R” with a snack. I don’t know what will be worse: Axl’s drama, watching Slash play without a shirt, or something I haven’t thought of yet. Question: let’s say this is NOT a clusterfuck. Axl is reasonably well-behaved, gigs start kinda on time, no shenanigans internally or with other bands involved. How domesticated would _that_ feel? I just don’t see the odds in favor of a Good scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/6 "2016-04-07T16:56:15Z")
My understanding is that they sounded great here last week at the Troubadour. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/7 "2016-04-07T16:58:53Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > My understanding is that they sounded great here last week at the Troubadour. To be clear: that would totally cool if they could maintain that level. Here’s hoping; but I am still grabbing popcorn. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/8 "2016-04-07T16:59:55Z")
> [@Laggard](#): > > My understanding is that they sounded great here last week at the Troubadour. It won’t be lack of talent that does them in. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/9 "2016-04-07T17:23:57Z")
[GnR at Troubadour.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2cw67YnK38) Sounds pretty good! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/10 "2016-04-07T17:33:05Z")
From the looks of [Axl](http://diffuser.fm/files/2016/01/Axl-Rose1.jpg?w=630&h=420&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89), it might be a massive coronary that does this tour in. Or choking on a ham sandwich. I hope he spends the next few months hitting the treadmill. I will say, that footage from the Troubadour does look pretty badass. It’s nice to see Slash in front of the old logo again! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/11 "2016-04-07T17:54:35Z")
Better off putting the ticket money on red in Vegas. Better odds on a positive return. I once overheard someone say this in a bar. _“Axl Rose? Who the fuck is that fat, old Queen?”_ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/12 "2016-04-07T17:54:48Z")
This is something I might have been interested in 20 years ago. If the band can sucker some promoter to front them millions of dollars, I say more power to them, but they’re not getting me to buy any. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/13 "2016-04-07T18:14:37Z")
Hard to believe _Appetite for Destruction_ was the state-of-the-art in hard rock 29 years ago. I was 10 years old; 29 years before that, doo-wop was still king, Elvis Presley was in the Army, and Axl Rose wouldn’t be born for another 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/14 "2016-04-08T02:44:50Z")
I’ll be seeing them at Coachella (probably). Festivals like that have to be on a pretty tight schedule. It will be a good test of their punctuality. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gnr-2016-tour/751453/15 "2016-04-08T10:45:51Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Hard to believe _Appetite for Destruction_ was the state-of-the-art in hard rock 29 years ago. I was 10 years old; 29 years before that, doo-wop was still king, Elvis Presley was in the Army, and Axl Rose wouldn’t be born for another 4 years. If you listen to Appetite, Van Halen 1, early Aerosmith - the guitar tones are suprisingly raw and primitive. Look at EVH: Strip away his phase shifter and whammy bar and you have the ultimate simple guitar-into-amp tone. You can really hear the strings breathe and all of his fingerwork because the tone is so unprocessed. Same thing with Slash’s idol, Joe Perry - listen to him and Brad Whitford play on Mama Kin: [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n0nW8CWnaGg](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n0nW8CWnaGg) The “handmade” tone of that intro guitar is closer to Chuck Berry than it is to many guitar tones used on rock today. When GnR broke, Slash did two things: 1) reinvigorated the Les Paul similar to how Hendrix revived the Stratocaster (funny, because Slash was playing an LP replica at the time!); and 2) became the guitar hero for his era representing…hmmm…“authentic” play - direct, flaws and all, handmade-sounding playing. He arrived with “retro” credibility; his sound and approach harkened back to the Badass Old Days\*. He’s still got it - as said upthread, talent won’t be their problem. ETA: \*I would argue that Jack White hit the ground running as a guitar hero for the same reasons: a very handmade sound; a clear embrace and respect of blues and rock roots while presenting a fresh interpretation; great songs.