# Go ahead--pit the first day of the fall semester **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593 "2009-08-25T03:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/61 "2009-08-27T05:17:08Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I’ve never quite understood the apparent moral deficiency some people attach to late rising. If person A goes to bed at 11 and gets up at 6, and person B goes to bed at 2 and gets up at 9, why is person B somehow lazier or less productive? Let’s make short work of this one. People stay up late to watch internet pornos and to avoid dealing with bosses and coworkers, who are awake during those early hours. This phase shift is a work-avoiding strategy. That’s why we call sleeping until noon “being a layabout.” ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/62 "2009-08-27T05:30:22Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Let’s make short work of this one. People stay up late to watch internet pornos and to avoid dealing with bosses and coworkers, who are awake during those early hours. This phase shift is a work-avoiding strategy. That’s why we call sleeping until noon “being a layabout.” I get it now. You’re just trolling. Silly of me not to see it earlier. I’ll treat your future contributions accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/63 "2009-08-27T05:48:51Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Let’s make short work of this one. People stay up late to watch internet pornos and to avoid dealing with bosses and coworkers, who are awake during those early hours. This phase shift is a work-avoiding strategy. That’s why we call sleeping until noon “being a layabout.” Since I can’t say fuck you I can’t give this the response it deserves. So I pose the question, are people who work second and third shift “layabouts”? Am I “avoiding bosses and coworkers” by choosing those types of schedules when available? I look forward to your further condemnation of anyone who doesn’t fit your narrow bigoted mold. List of people you’re judgmental against for stupid reasons: 2nd shift people 3rd shift people students teachers Europeans Also speaking of Europeans, you ever going to deliver that cite that backs up your claim that Europeans spend more time on vacation then at work, or you gonna admit that was bullshit? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/64 "2009-08-27T05:50:49Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Aerobics is a university-level class now? Yea, there’s 2 credit hours of physical education required for my degree. Aerobics satisfies one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/65 "2009-08-27T06:03:44Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Europeans > > Also speaking of Europeans, you ever going to deliver that cite that backs up your claim that Europeans spend more time on vacation then at work, or you gonna admit that was bullshit? Europeans who are redoing the filing system while waiting for someone to come back from vacation in India, the USA and Chile. Was “asking to join the EU” one of Obama’s promises, do you know? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/66 "2009-08-27T06:17:39Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Europeans who are redoing the filing system while waiting for someone to come back from vacation in India, the USA and Chile. Was “asking to join the EU” one of Obama’s promises, do you know? lol wut? Is this the effect of that other great Spanish summer tradition, tinto de verano? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/67 "2009-08-27T13:26:02Z")
I obviously made the mistaken assumption that **Kimmy\_Gibbler** was entering the discussion in good faith, a mistake that will not happen again. For some reason, he/she wasn’t on my list of posters to automatically not read in a thread. Wish someone had clued me in earlier before I wasted my time attempting to provide facts! Does anyone know what he/she does for a living, so that I may automatically denigrate that profession and persons who practice it? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/68 "2009-08-27T15:24:07Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > I obviously made the mistaken assumption that **Kimmy\_Gibbler** was entering the discussion in good faith, a mistake that will not happen again. For some reason, he/she wasn’t on my list of posters to automatically not read in a thread. Wish someone had clued me in earlier before I wasted my time attempting to provide facts! > > Does anyone know what he/she does for a living, so that I may automatically denigrate that profession and persons who practice it? Inb4 Kimmy’s too chicken to answer. Also **Nava** , I gotta be honest. I’m confused, could you elucidate what you meant? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/69 "2009-08-27T16:10:06Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > I obviously made the mistaken assumption that **Kimmy\_Gibbler** was entering the discussion in good faith, a mistake that will not happen again. For some reason, he/she wasn’t on my list of posters **to automatically not read** in a thread. Wish someone had clued me in earlier before I wasted my time attempting to provide facts! > > Does anyone know what he/she does for a living, so that I may automatically denigrate that profession and persons who practice it? Split infinitive. F- P.S.: I’m quite sure you already denigrate my profession and its practitioners. We attorneys have long ago learned to toughen up _our_ hineys. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/70 "2009-08-27T16:24:52Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Split infinitive. You have a cite against the split infinitive? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/71 "2009-08-27T17:05:40Z")
> [@andiepandie](#): > > First, it is inevitable that I will pick up some virus (H1N1?) from some twit who refuses to stay home from class when they’re sick. What’s your university’s attendance policy like? Mine had an incredibly stupid one that involved docking your grade for missed classes beyond a certain threshold, regardless of your other class participation, exam scores, or grades on papers. Could be you’re blaming the wrong party. > [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > You have a cite against the split infinitive? There is no legitimate cite against the split infinitive, unless you count morons who want to force English to work like Latin. However, I’ve been quite amused by \*\*Kimmy \*\*in this thread, personally. (He’s so obviously button pushing, it makes me laugh.) ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/72 "2009-08-27T17:49:01Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > P.S.: I’m quite sure you already denigrate my profession and its practitioners. We attorneys have long ago learned to toughen up _our_ hineys. If you are anything in person like your persona here, you probably deserve whatever denigration you receive. Professionally or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/73 "2009-08-27T17:58:45Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > There is no legitimate cite against the split infinitive, unless you count morons who want to force English to work like Latin. However, I’ve been quite amused by \*\*Kimmy \*\*in this thread, personally. (He’s so obviously button pushing, it makes me laugh.) If I wanted trolls I’d go to /b/. The troll’s posts in this thread has been reported btw. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/74 "2009-08-27T18:40:35Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > P.S.: I’m quite sure you already denigrate my profession and its practitioners. We attorneys have long ago learned to toughen up _our_ hineys. Actually, my stepfather, brother, uncle, ex-husband, ex-boyfriend, and three best friends are all attorneys. My mother was a paralegal. I have a high regard for many of the members of the legal profession - I save my vitriol for SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of douchebaggery in someone and then denigrate them for being bad workers, bad employees, or lazy and incompetent _individuals_, rather than denigrating the entire profession in which they practice. It’s obvious that at some point in your life, you had bad experiences with specific examples of lazy or incompetent college professors, and have determined in your infinite wisdom that those college professors are not just lazy or incompetent _individuals_, but that college professors in general are so. And with that, I’ve just violated my promise to ignore you, and wasted time attempting to reason with a pig. ETA: **Shot From Guns** , yea, I know, I recognized that as soon as the pig in question ignored every post with evidence contrary to the original statement. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/75 "2009-08-27T19:38:27Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > If I wanted trolls I’d go to /b/. The troll’s posts in this thread has been reported btw. You reported someone for being an ass… in the Pit? Seriously? Did you just forget what forum you were in, or are you really that uptight? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/76 "2009-08-27T20:10:55Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You reported someone for being an ass… in the Pit? Seriously? Did you just forget what forum you were in, or are you really that uptight? Do you actually know what troll means? [What is a troll? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1764/what-is-a-troll) ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/77 "2009-08-27T20:16:20Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You reported someone for being an ass… in the Pit? Seriously? Did you just forget what forum you were in, or are you really that uptight? Being in the pit doesn’t give somebody free reign to act like a shitbird, and I wish people would stop pretending like it does. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/78 "2009-08-27T20:31:43Z")
Huh. I saw **Kimmy** ’s original posts as being tongue-in-cheek, but it just keeps going. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/79 "2009-08-27T20:35:02Z")
> [@rivulus](#): > > Anyway, back to whining. Tonight is my first night class of the year. > > I was up until 3:30 last night attempting to hit a deadline on a project at work. No time for a nap today, so I’m off to class on 3 hours of sleep. Yawn. At least this time I’m _taking_ the class, not teaching it. No big deal if I drift off a little in the back row. I hope the prof doesn’t take it personally, though. I wouldn’t. 🙂 I’ve got classes that meet at 7:30am and 8am, and people are having to rise and shine much earlier now due to all the parking disruption from the ongoing construction work (you get crappy parking far, far away if you don’t get there at the asscrack of dawn), so I understand completely if someone nods off. That said, I do try to change it up a bit in class, and we take our mandated breaks: 10 minutes for the 2-hour class, and half an hour for the 4-hour class. Anyway, back to the on-topic whining: the elevators broke down yesterday, and I lost my classroom keys. And now there are wildfires spreading polluted air everywhere. Frak this whole week. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593/80 "2009-08-27T20:54:08Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > Being in the pit doesn’t give somebody free reign to act like a shitbird, and I wish people would stop pretending like it does. There are plenty of people who the mods have declined to take action against who are worse than **Kimmy**. That was pretty much my point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-ahead-pit-the-first-day-of-the-fall-semester/507593.md?page=5)