# Go back into the cardboard tube you crawled out of, Starving Artist. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670 "2013-10-08T12:16:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/1 "2013-10-08T12:16:11Z")
Defender of pedofiles and champion of pederasts. Defiler of truth. Wearer of the finest, most sheer veils that barely covers the ass of your bigotry. Go to the nearest insane asylum and give yourself to science. Surely they can come up with a cure for your pecular mental illness – Nostalgiaheimer’s: Where the mind tricks itself into believing Pleasantville was a documentary depicting the fall of the perfect United States at the hands of the women and the blacks. The Perfect US where men could fuck whoever they wanted, yet all the girls were virgins and pre-marital sex was practically unheard of. Where there was no crime at all because of the code of White Man Chivalry precluded it. Where blacks were second class citizens and _liked_ it. You are a vile little man. Take your pseudo-politeness and crawl back under the rock of embarrasment shame that you recently came from. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/2 "2013-10-08T12:22:23Z")
I’m not disagreeing, but link? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/3 "2013-10-08T12:24:50Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’m not disagreeing, but link? Every time he opens his fucking mouth. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/4 "2013-10-08T12:25:44Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Defender of pedofiles and champion of pederasts. Defiler of truth. Wearer of the finest, most sheer veils that barely covers the ass of your bigotry. Okay, Old Testament… but which book? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/5 "2013-10-08T12:29:28Z")
[Starkers begins his standard pedophile defense with post 40.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=703754&highlight=Woody) ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/6 "2013-10-08T12:46:55Z")
Sorry, [it started with me with this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16734085&postcount=1266) in the Stupid Liberal Idea thread. But it doesn’t have to be about any particular post or thread. He’s a vile little man who needs to die of shame. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/7 "2013-10-08T13:03:04Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > But it doesn’t have to be about any particular post or thread. He’s a vile little man who needs to die of shame. This bears repeating. (Or bares repeating, I’m never sure which is correct) “Nine? But she dresses like a fifteen year old.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/8 "2013-10-08T13:07:28Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > [Starkers begins his standard pedophile defense with post 40.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=703754&highlight=Woody) Post 54, really. In post 40 he just points out that Soon-Yi is not Woody Allen’s daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/9 "2013-10-08T13:11:18Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > [Starkers begins his standard pedophile defense with post 40.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=703754&highlight=Woody) Would it be a “standard pedophile defense” to point out that Allen and Previn evidently did not begin a [sexual relationship until Previn was a legal adult](http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Woody-Allen-on-marriage-to-Soon-Yi:--What-was-the-scandal-/8209443)? > [@](#): > > Previn also said the two began seeing each other around the time she was 20-years-old. She told Time magazine “By that time his relationship with Mia was long done, and they were going through the motions.” She added, “They were friendly but rarely went out, and apart from when they worked together or played with their children, had little to do with one another.” Because I have to say that seems like kinda a fail, insofar as being a pedophile goes. Or is this one of those, “Hey, Woody Allen is bad, so any accusation made against him, regardless of accuracy, must be applauded and not rebutted, or else!” ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/10 "2013-10-08T13:21:52Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Or is this one of those, “Hey, Woody Allen is bad, so any accusation made against him, regardless of accuracy, must be applauded and not rebutted, or else!” I make no comment on Woody Allen and his fucking of his girlfriend’s 22 year old daughter. All I’m saying is that Starving Artist is a vile man who should go back to hiding in shame. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/11 "2013-10-08T13:22:04Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Post 54, really. In post 40 he just points out that Soon-Yi is not Woody Allen’s daughter. TBF that post #54 and the next twelve or so posts read to me like an argument about a defense of plain old creepyness NOT of pedophilia. I would **not** censure **SA** over that. For blindered nostalgia for a genteel time that was ruined by them damn dirty hippies, hell, sure. If only for giving the hippies all the damn credit. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/12 "2013-10-08T13:34:39Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I make no comment on Woody Allen and his fucking of his girlfriend’s 22 year old daughter. All I’m saying is that Starving Artist is a vile man who should go back to hiding in shame. 😃 And I, in turn, make no comment about Starving Artist’s vileness or lack thereof. All I’m saying is Woody Allen may be a pretentious and insensitive jerk for fucking his girlfriend’s 20 year old daughter, but there’s no hint of pedophilia in that story. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/13 "2013-10-08T13:43:57Z")
Can somebody explain the cardboard tube reference? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/14 "2013-10-08T14:00:34Z")
Short version : back during the Penn. State pedophilia hullaballooh, \*\*Starving \*\*was adamantly convinced of Joe Paterno’s innocence and asserted that it was physically impossible for a grown man such as Jerry Sanduski to buttfuck a kid in the showers, because the angles would be all wrong, you see ? He then enjoined other posters to try and see for themselves, using a paper towel tube in lieu of a 10 year old. Last I know, he was still utterly convinced Paterno didn’t spy Sandusky molesting a kid, but “innocent horseplay” between a naked adult and a naked kid. As is totally fine and not weird at all (another of his creepy as fuck assertions in that magnificent trainwreck). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/15 "2013-10-08T14:01:51Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Can somebody explain the cardboard tube reference? Thanks. Extremely low-rent Fleshlight. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/16 "2013-10-08T14:06:05Z")
Really? I should have thought by now that’s standard board lore. Way back when people were upset about the Penn State pedophilia, SA had some sort of explanation as to how it wouldn’t be possible for an adult to have sex with a kid standing up and it involved paper towel tubes. To be honest I didn’t pay much attention because it’s SA and there are a lot more productive things I could be doing than listening to him, like eating lead paint. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/17 "2013-10-08T14:20:05Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Would it be a “standard pedophile defense” to point out that Allen and Previn evidently did not begin a [sexual relationship until Previn was a legal adult](http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Woody-Allen-on-marriage-to-Soon-Yi:--What-was-the-scandal-/8209443)? OK, but as we are not in court and Starkers is being judged in the Pit, can we include prior bad acts and extrinsic evidence? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/18 "2013-10-08T14:24:00Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > TBF that post #54 and the next twelve or so posts read to me like an argument about a defense of plain old creepyness NOT of pedophilia. I would **not** censure **SA** over that. > For blindered nostalgia for a genteel time that was ruined by them damn dirty hippies, hell, sure. If only for giving the hippies all the damn credit. I was just trying to save people the bother of reading the preceding 13 posts unnecessarily. I make no judgment about whether SA is defending paedophilia again or kickstarting the paper towel tube industry or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/19 "2013-10-08T14:26:20Z")
He seems a bit angry at pretty much all of the 21st Century. Perhaps he didn’t get enough hugs as a child. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/20 "2013-10-08T14:27:51Z")
I, for one, am somewhat relieved **SA** posted. It’s given me a better understanding of his tormented psyche. His distaste of non-whites, non-Christians, non-males, and non-conservatives is well known. So, it was educational for me to learn that **SA** values the intrinsic right of men (whether or not they’re liberal Jews) to fuck whatever they please over whether or not they have the right religion or political affiliation. Basically, no matter what else a man is or does, as long as he fucks something in a manner most people consider grotesque or illicit (young boys, his girlfriend’s decades younger daughter, horses, etc), none of the rest matter. So, thank you for clearing that up for me. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670.md?page=2)