# Go back into the cardboard tube you crawled out of, Starving Artist. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670 "2013-10-08T12:16:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/141 "2013-10-11T13:50:23Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > Let’s be honest here, it’s not like Bricker, of all people, is surprising to hear this kind of defense from. The guy’s religion practically forces him to twist himself into knots in order to argue for people who help defend child molesters. The fact that he’s doing it for somebody who is a total creep while ignoring the facts and what people are actually saying is just being totally consistent with his known personality. First, they came for the morons, and I said nothing. The End. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/142 "2013-10-11T13:57:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Not having participated in any meaningful way in that thread, I have no idea if your characterization is anywhere close to accurate. > > But I have learned from experience what it usually means when someone like you refuses to actually answer the question I posed, and instead froths indignantly about some other scenario more to his liking. > > So maybe this is the rare time you’re relating things fairly. > > But the odds don’t favor it. Shorter Bricker: Hmm. I could actually bother to educate myself on what I’m talking about, or I could instead make douchebag personal aspersions that flow from my partisan nature. I guess I’ll go with Option B and be a douchebag. If only someone had posted a succinct summary with quotes and links somewhere in this thread! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/143 "2013-10-11T14:07:24Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Shorter Bricker: Hmm. I could actually bother to educate myself on what I’m talking about, or I could instead make douchebag personal aspersions that flow from my partisan nature. > > I guess I’ll go with Option B and be a douchebag. > > If only someone had posted a succinct summary with quotes and links somewhere in this thread! Ok, that’s fair. In my defense, that thread is …not short. But ok, fair point. Let me read the thread. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/144 "2013-10-11T14:20:16Z")
Good God, man, no! No! You’ve done nothing to deserve such a sentence, you are not old enough to be Mengele, and besides, he’s dead! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/145 "2013-10-11T14:23:14Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Ok, that’s fair. In my defense, that thread is …not short. But ok, fair point. Let me read the thread. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16743183&postcount=97](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16743183&postcount=97) Please see this post from Kimstu in this thread, the link to her post in the other thread, and the summary she presents. Now, if you just read those, you’ll get the intellectual concerns about SAs argumentation. You won’t fully appreciate the visceral disgust that comes from his thought experiments, suggested physical experiments, and general manner of envisioning the whole sickening incident unless you read what he posted. You know I don’t hold you in particularly high regard, but even so I cringe at the idea of you working through that mess in one sitting. I commend you for your integrity. IOW, what elucidator said! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/146 "2013-10-11T14:54:12Z")
Actually I hope he does read the entire thread so he’ll see the incredible hysteria, mob mentality and obstinacy regarding the facts it contains so as to have a better understanding of the need for cardboard tube thought experiment in the first place. You have only yourselves to blame that it’s there. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/147 "2013-10-11T15:03:07Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Joe Paterno, who is not known to have had any romantic relationship other than with his wife, and Woody Allen That doesn’t sound good ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/148 "2013-10-11T15:23:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Actually I hope he does read the entire thread so he’ll see the incredible hysteria, mob mentality and obstinacy regarding the facts it contains so as to have a better understanding of the need for cardboard tube thought experiment in the first place. I say this with utmost confidence and conviction: there has never been, and will never be, an exigency for a cardboard-tube boy’s rectum thought experiment. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/149 "2013-10-11T15:32:03Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Ok, that’s fair. In my defense, that thread is …not short. But ok, fair point. Let me read the thread. We’ve had our run-ins in the past. But I implore you not to go through with this misguided plan. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, and also some of SA’s posts in there will probably make you want to hurl. Trust us. Please. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/150 "2013-10-11T15:37:05Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I say this with utmost confidence and conviction: there has never been, and will never be, an exigency for a cardboard-tube boy’s rectum thought experiment. As I’ve explained many a time it was never a surrogate little boy’s rectum. It was a guarantor, knowing the dishonest nature of the people I was dealing with, that they actually attempt the required movements in the required position rather that simply squatting and calling it good. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/151 "2013-10-11T15:42:17Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > We’ve had our run-ins in the past. But I implore you not to go through with this misguided plan. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, and also some of SA’s posts in there will probably make you want to hurl. Trust us. Please. It’s amusing watching you people scramble trying to dissuade **Bricker** from reading that thread. I agree that it’s laden with scum and villainy but none of it is mine and I welcome a full reading of it so he can what I was up against in all its glory. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/152 "2013-10-11T16:05:57Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > :D:D:D > > So in your opinion these two adults should have consulted with the woman’s fifteen years younger 4 1/2-year-old adoptive brother before beginning their relationship to see if he might find it “creepy”? :rolleyes: The reason Ronan finds it creepy is that he’s been trained to view it that was by his mother and those in her circle for the last twenty years. Cite??? And NOT a quote from Woody Allen. You stated in two threads, in February and in October, that Woody didn’t meet Soon-Yi until she was an adult. You were corrected in February, yet made the same exact statement in October. You also stated in February that Soon-Yi was not Satchel, Dylan and Moses’s sister (after all, they were only all Mia’s biological or adopted children), and that Mia brought the whole mess to public attention, though actually it was WOODY ALLEN who held a press conference after filing for custody of “his” three children. The papers he filed stated that Satchel was born in September (no, it was December, but who would expect Woody Allen to know the birthdate of his only biological child?), that Mia had accused him of molesting Satchel )a false allegation that Allen quickly dropped), and that Mia had filed an application to adopt two more children (not at that time). In short, Starving Artist does have something in common with Woody Allen: He makes up facts as he goes along. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/153 "2013-10-11T16:15:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s amusing watching you people scramble trying to dissuade **Bricker** from reading that thread. I agree that it’s laden with scum and villainy but none of it is mine and I welcome a full reading of it so he can what I was up against in all its glory. And if **Bricker** ends up wading through the 40 acres of bullshit opinion you posted to that thread, and doesn’t happen to agree with your assessment of the case, what then? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/154 "2013-10-11T16:31:02Z")
Win-win. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/155 "2013-10-11T18:48:53Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I > Worse is Celine Dion who began dating her current husband when she was what, 15 or 16?, and met and became close to him when she was like 12. I don’t hear anybody complaining about that whole situation - at least not loudly. Holy crap! I didn’t know Celine Dion was a pedophile. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/156 "2013-10-11T20:11:10Z")
You still don’t. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/157 "2013-10-11T20:22:51Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Holy crap! I didn’t know Celine Dion was a pedophile. I’m surprised. It was all over the news. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/158 "2013-10-11T20:41:48Z")
I heard she may even be a francophone, which is even worse! \*Mon Dieu! \* ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/159 "2013-10-11T20:43:44Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Holy crap! I didn’t know Celine Dion was a pedophile. Goes back to her days with The Belmonts. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670/160 "2013-10-11T20:51:31Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I heard she may even be a francophone, which is even worse! \*Mon Dieu! \* She’s a big fan of James Franco? Who isn’t? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-back-into-the-cardboard-tube-you-crawled-out-of-starving-artist/670670.md?page=9)