# Go MARINES!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 7, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446 "2004-11-07T02:49:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/21 "2004-11-07T03:43:43Z")

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> [@ZebraShaSha](#):
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> This will alllll be over soon…

Do you mean the situation in Iraq or Blackacre’s posting? One will probably end by morning when it sobers up, but the other will likely go on for a long time.

Can’t really tell which is which though.

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**Author:** ![Snaggletooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Snaggletooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snaggletooth)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/22 "2004-11-07T03:48:32Z")

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> [@Roseworm](#):
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> There are about 5-6000 terrorists in Fallujah. I hope we kill them all. And I fervently hope that our boys will not take too many casualties. No matter how liberal you are, the least you can do is root for their survival. Pray for them now. This is going to be the biggest single battle we have fought since Vietnam.

I [agree](http://www.usmc.mil/)

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**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/23 "2004-11-07T03:53:59Z")

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> [@Blackacre](#):
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> I hope they annihilate those Fallujah fuckers! Dems pulling for insurgents?
> 
> Cheers!  
> BA

" Dems pulling for insurgents?"

I’m sorry, what does this mean?

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/24 "2004-11-07T03:54:57Z")

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> [@Fritz](#):
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> " Dems pulling for insurgents?"
> 
> I’m sorry, what does this mean?

It means he’s an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Osip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@Osip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osip)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/25 "2004-11-07T04:01:38Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Gosh, it’s so great. Lots of American kids are going to die, some of them slowly and painfully. And even more Iraqis will die. The situation will worsen, drawing in American troops for years to come, who will be killed in a steady stream of pointless desctruction, while levelling an entire nation.

I seem to remember hearing these words about Afghanistan.

I have yet to see anyone predict the outcome of a conflict correctly.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/26 "2004-11-07T04:06:42Z")

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> [@Osip](#):
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> I seem to remember hearing these words about Afghanistan.
> 
> I have yet to see anyone predict the outcome of a conflict correctly.

In Afghanistan we had whole-hearted international cooperation and a clear mission (which we failed to complete, anyway), as well as a strong and independent ally in the Northern Alliance.

In Iraq we have half-hearted cooperation from about two countries who can field an actual army, no clear mission, and a weak and very dependent ally in the Allawi government.

While I hope our soldier come out of this alive and well, I can’t help but regret that it’s come to this in the first place. Anyone who can post on here gloating and screaming for blood is either a child who’s never lost a loved one to war or violence, or an unfeeling asshole.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/27 "2004-11-07T04:07:47Z")

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There is a young man in Fallujah tonight, **Black Chancre**. He is excited, giddy with the coming glory, thrilled that he will have his chance to kill. His ears are stuffed with lies: glory, victory, conquest…the same old lies, like a broken down, diseased whore, whispering obscene promises.

He is your brother. You are closer to him than you know.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/28 "2004-11-07T04:09:04Z")

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As a poster who is a) a Dem; and b) has spent considerable time in Iraq and Afghanistan; I feel I am in a unique position to point out that the originator of this thread is a complete and utter moron, I also suspect he has no idea what war is. I’ve been in three, they are not sporting events and only fat-assed Red Staters safe in their Walmarts cheer them like they are sporting events.

First off, only Red Staters think that everything in Afghanistan is fine, because they don’t see anything about it on the front page of the Weekly Shopper Gazette, and because Fox news says it’s great. Karzai has been elected mayor of Kabul, he has no real authority and the state will fail.

Secondly, we can never win in Iraq, never, it’s over. We might win the battle of Fallujah, but in so doing we will recruit more terrorists all over the world then we can ever kill.

Thirdly, isn’t the poster at all concerned by the orthodox view of the Red Staters that only Republicans love America? No, I guess not, all we Dems get is a profound sense of sorrow and the bitter victory of a great big I told you so, in the next four years.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/29 "2004-11-07T04:15:53Z")

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**Blackacre** , are you a veteran, or are you just talking out of your ass? Have you seen service to our country, or are you posting under the influence?

You sound like someone who is willing to let others do the dirty work for him, “supporting the troops”, but not putting his/her own life on the line. C’mon, fess up, you must be a kid trying to provoke his elders, no?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/30 "2004-11-07T04:16:01Z")

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> [@Osip](#):
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> I seem to remember hearing these words about Afghanistan.
> 
> I have yet to see anyone predict the outcome of a conflict correctly.

no american boys died in Afghanistan, huh?

Of course, at least that war had a point. Terrorists were loose and using the country as their personal nation-state. Iraq, not so much.

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/31 "2004-11-07T04:23:17Z")

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> [@Blackacre](#):
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> I hope they annihilate those Fallujah fuckers! Dems pulling for insurgents?
> 
> Cheers!  
> BA

No, I am pulling for peace and as little bloodshed as possible. Not all of those “Fallujah Fuckers” are combatants, many are people just trying to make a living. Children. Old people. Women. Your bloodthirsty posturing is just sickening and wrong. I am concerned for the American troops AND the civilians were are supposed to be freeing from tyranny. I will pray for both of them and hope against hope that somehow, few lives will be lost and few will suffer injury.

All I can see is that you are pulling for death, dismemberment, power, and hatred of people whom you’ve never even met. It saddens me almost as much as it angers me.

I suppose it’s easy from the nice, comfortable safety of the US to scream for blood when you’re not the one who has to spill it-- don’t have to hear the screams of those with burns or missing limbs. You don’t have to hear the wails of a mother whose child was accidently struck by a bullet. From this safe distance, it can all be exciting and fun, just like a movie where troops charge forth to the tune of soaring violins and the enemy falls as easily and neatly as bowling pins. Lots of cool explosions and the stacatto rattle of gunfire on the evening news, where deaths are just numbers mentioned in passing.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/32 "2004-11-07T04:24:09Z")

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> [@Blackacre](#):
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> I hope they annihilate those Fallujah fuckers! Dems pulling for insurgents?
> 
> Cheers!  
> BA

And here I thought this thread was somehow tied to the army-navy game…

Ra ra ra!  
Blood and pain!  
Ra ra ra!  
Bullet to the brain!  
Goooooooooo team!!!

(oh, you’re an idiot, by the way)

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/33 "2004-11-07T04:27:36Z")

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You know \*\* Blackacre\*\* I usually _like_ to see a great ass!! Alas another favorite pastime shot to shit.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/34 "2004-11-07T04:33:09Z")

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It’s nice to see that all the demonizing has stopped…

**Blackacre** , you are truly a moron.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/35 "2004-11-07T04:39:00Z")

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> [@Blackacre](#):
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> I hope they annihilate those Fallujah fuckers! Dems pulling for insurgents?
> 
> Cheers!  
> BA

And the Thundering Troglodite Award this year goes to… **Blackacre**

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/36 "2004-11-07T04:39:38Z")

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I hope that the US troops are successful and have little ro no casualties.

As for teh OP, guys, don’t feed the Ogre.

No, not ogre, another fairy tale creature.  
Gnome?  
Goblin?  
Orc?

Help me out here, guys.

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**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/37 "2004-11-07T04:41:14Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> I hope that the US troops are successful and have little ro no casualties.
> 
> As for teh OP, guys, don’t feed the Ogre.
> 
> No, not ogre, another fairy tale creature.  
> Gnome?  
> Goblin?  
> Orc?
> 
> Help me out here, guys.

Moron.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/38 "2004-11-07T04:41:17Z")

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Maiar?

Valar?

Dwarf?

House-Elf?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/39 "2004-11-07T04:44:10Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> I hope that the US troops are successful and have little ro no casualties.

I too hope that our soldiers arrive safe and sound back in America.

Pixy, dryad, nerid, nymph?

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/40 "2004-11-07T04:46:28Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> I hope that the US troops are successful and have little ro no casualties.
> 
> As for teh OP, guys, don’t feed the Ogre.
> 
> No, not ogre, another fairy tale creature.  
> Gnome?  
> Goblin?  
> Orc?
> 
> Help me out here, guys.

Asshole

Fuckhead

Jaskass

What letter does it start with?

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