# Go MARINES! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446 "2004-11-07T02:49:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/41 "2004-11-07T04:46:55Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I too hope that our soldiers arrive safe and sound back in America. > > Pixy, dryad, nerid, nymph? Kneezle? Screwt? Doxie? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/42 "2004-11-07T04:56:25Z")
> [@Roseworm](#): > > There are about 5-6000 terrorists in Fallujah. I hope we kill them all. And I fervently hope that our boys will not take too many casualties. No matter how liberal you are, the least you can do is root for their survival. Pray for them now. This is going to be the biggest single battle we have fought since Vietnam. > [@Blackacre](#): > > I hope they annihilate those Fallujah fuckers! Dems pulling for insurgents? > > Cheers! [All quiet on the Eastern front](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020629/) Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose… (More of the same) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/43 "2004-11-07T05:00:51Z")
At the very best, one could argue that we absolutely must take Fallujah in order to help the Iraqi people gain their freedom. It’s a stretch but an argument can be made. Let’s assume that it’s true. In order to take Fallujah, scores of coallition soldiers will die or be severely injured. The same can be said about thousands if Iraqis, some of whom will be insurgents and others will be innocent civillians. I don’t think that anyone here is rooting for the insurgents. I think that we can all agree that we want as few people to die or get hurt as possible. Like I said, at best we are doing a terrible thing that we have to do depite the fact that it’s a terrible thing. Why would you cheer for this, **Blackacre**? It’s like cheering because you made the decision to take your grandmother off of life support. Show some fucking respect, asshole. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/44 "2004-11-07T05:02:50Z")
**Mark Twain:** > [@](#): > > O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle-be Thou near them! With them, in spirit, we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it-for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/45 "2004-11-07T05:06:29Z")
Thank you, God, for Mark Twain. Could we have him back? We really, really need him. Bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/46 "2004-11-07T05:13:17Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Thank you, God, for Mark Twain. Could we have him back? We really, really need him. Bad. You think he´d like to come back? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/47 "2004-11-07T05:17:09Z")
No. Jesus would have to talk him into it. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/48 "2004-11-07T05:18:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Thank you, God, for Mark Twain. Could we have him back? We really, really need him. Bad. You’re a proven liar, who cares what you say? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/49 "2004-11-07T05:18:23Z")
Mark Twain? 51% of people don’t like his work, and that obviously proves them right, because, like, there are a lot of them. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/50 "2004-11-07T05:21:41Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > You’re a proven liar, who cares what you say? \ Tu Quo\ You want to stop doing this anytime soon? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/51 "2004-11-07T05:23:09Z")
whoops, coding. (preview, preview, preview :smack: ) [your fallacy is “tu quo”](http://webpages.shepherd.edu/maustin/rhetoric/fallacies.htm) But a driveby fallacy in reasoning is at least fun to categorize. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/52 "2004-11-07T05:23:36Z")
> [@Chairman Pow](#): > > Do you mean the situation in Iraq or Blackacre’s posting? One will probably end by morning when it sobers up, but the other will likely go on for a long time. > > Can’t really tell which is which though. Oh, yea, sorry for the ambiguity! I can see where that would not make much sense, if it made any at all. Anyways, I was stating that the OP started an instant pile on train wreck, which was manifested in my belief that it would end soon. No, I was not hoping for **Blackacre** ’s posting to end, even though it has been “flavorful” in the past IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/53 "2004-11-07T05:27:57Z")
Oh, that’s OK, **Finn** , just one of those schoolgirl crushes, like the tomboy who throws a dirt clod at you to get your attention. ---
**Author:** ![Legolamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Legolamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legolamb)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/54 "2004-11-07T05:29:10Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > You’re a proven liar, who cares what you say? _bring bring_ “Hello?” “Hi, is that Pot?” “Umm, yeah.” “This is Kettle. You’re black.” _click_ :wally ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/55 "2004-11-07T05:31:45Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > You’re a proven liar, who cares what you say? :: sigh :: And just when I thought **Blackacre** had achieved the near-impossible – uniting Doperdom on one thing in this divisive time: That a certain dark blot on the landscape is beneath contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Legolamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Legolamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legolamb)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/56 "2004-11-07T05:33:58Z")
> [@Legolamb](#): > > _bring bring_ > “Hello?” > “Hi, is that Pot?” > “Umm, yeah.” > “This is Kettle. You’re black.” > _click_ > :wally Or, you know, the correct way round for the phrase. Either way. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/57 "2004-11-07T05:39:42Z")
> [@Legolamb](#): > > Or, you know, the correct way round for the phrase. Either way. :smack: :: offers consoling pat :: That’s all right, we knew what you meant. And you got the :wally just right. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/58 "2004-11-07T05:59:47Z")
Who knew Twain wrote [Psalm 18](http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NIV&passage=Psalm+18%3A37-42&x=12&y=9)?: > [@](#): > > I pursued my enemies and overtook them; > I did not turn back till they were destroyed. > > I crushed them so that they could not rise; > they fell beneath my feet. > > You armed me with strength for battle; > you made my adversaries bow at my feet. > > You made my enemies turn their backs in flight, > and I destroyed my foes. > > They cried for help, but there was no one to save them- > to the LORD , but he did not answer. > > I beat them as fine as dust borne on the wind; > I poured them out like mud in the streets. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/59 "2004-11-07T06:06:07Z")
That was the old God. Before he got religion. ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446/60 "2004-11-07T07:00:38Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > But the blood is all [**too real**](http://www.dewaarheid.nu/mrt01/muhammed_adman_shrapnel.jpg) So’s the oil. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-marines/273446.md?page=4)