# Go To Fucking Hell, You Soulless Shrill Bitch! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610 "2006-06-06T14:11:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/61 "2006-06-09T01:50:47Z")
Originally spewed by **Ann Coulter** : > [@](#): > > “Do I have to kill my mother so that I can be a victim too?” This is quite possibly the stupidest thing anyone has ever said in the history of the world. [http://mediamatters.org/items/200606080002](http://mediamatters.org/items/200606080002) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/62 "2006-06-09T01:57:27Z")
Ms. Coulter is under investigation in Florida for knowingly voting in the wrong precinct, a felony. From [here](http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060608/cm_huffpost/022511). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/63 "2006-06-09T02:11:05Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Ms. Coulter is under investigation in Florida for knowingly voting in the wrong precinct, a felony. > > From [here](http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060608/cm_huffpost/022511). Oh, man, I hope this pans out. Ann Coulter in prison could possibly rival the discovery of fire as the most awesome thing ever. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/64 "2006-06-09T04:08:56Z")
She did name them in an interview. I remember because the way she answered it was kind of annoying. I found [the interview](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/542607/ref%3Dac%5Fbk%5F2/%24%7B0%7D/002-6856304-4997600). If I had recently moved into her apartment building around the time of the interview, I’d put an extra deadbolt on the door. Looking at her book covers on Amazon, I have these observations: [ul] [li]It appears that with each book she wears less clothing on the cover.[/li][li]On the cover of How To Talk To a Liberal (If You Must), she looks like a muppet.[/li][li]Looking at the cover of her new book, she’s looking more like a corpse. Maybe in 10 years she’ll look like Fred Phelps.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/65 "2006-06-09T04:50:30Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Oh, man, I hope this pans out. Ann Coulter in prison could possibly rival the discovery of fire as the most awesome thing ever. Now she’s the one who should go into the cell with Bubba. I think she came on to some of the widows and they told her to fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/66 "2006-06-09T10:26:09Z")
> [@Talon Karrde](#): > > Looking at her book covers on Amazon, I have these observations:… I can’t bring myself to look. How much airbrushing does it take to eradicate her Adam’s Apple? ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/67 "2006-06-09T13:38:36Z")
I take some comfort in the fact that I am actually Ann Coulter’s worst nightmare: a real-life, unrepentant **Godless Liberal**! I picture myself proudly telling her I am also pro-choice and for gay rights, and watching her melt away like the Wicked Witch of the West. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/68 "2006-06-09T13:59:16Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > I heard her book just hit #3 on Amazon. > > :eek: [Make that number one.](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/books/all/ref=pd_dp_ts_b_1/002-8425359-6450403) - though only 1000 or so in the UK. > [@Eve](#): > > I take some comfort in the fact that I am actually Ann Coulter’s worst nightmare Are you absolutely sure? I should think much of her fame and publicity (and money) comes from the predictable outrage from liberals like you. She probably absolutely love you, or at least the response she gets from people like you. How about Ward Eichmann Churchill as the comparable liberal hack? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/69 "2006-06-09T14:03:32Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > How about Ward Eichmann Churchill as the comparable liberal hack? And he’s lionized by…who, exactly? Churchill is a fairly obscure academic whose only national attention came when he called the 9/11 victims “little eichmans”. I’m pretty sure you won’t be able to find a fraction of the praise and attention showered upon him that’s showered upon Coulter by the Right. In other words, there’s no comparison, not because I think his ideas are more acceptable, but because far more Right-wingers think Anne’s the bees’ knees than Left-wingers think Churchill is anything more than an ivory-tower idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/70 "2006-06-09T14:18:29Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > Are you absolutely sure? I should think much of her fame and publicity (and money) comes from the predictable outrage from liberals like you. She probably absolutely love you, or at least the response she gets from people like you. But she _doesn’t_ outrage me, I don’t take her seriously. The most she’ll get from me is an eye-roll or a snort of derision. And I certainly don’t buy or read her “books.” So, yeah, I am hopefully sticking with “worst nightmare.” ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/71 "2006-06-09T14:25:44Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > And he’s lionized by…who, exactly? Churchill is a fairly obscure academic whose only national attention came when he called the 9/11 victims “little eichmans”. I’m pretty sure you won’t be able to find a fraction of the praise and attention showered upon him that’s showered upon Coulter by the Right. > > In other words, there’s no comparison, not because I think his ideas are more acceptable, but because far more Right-wingers think Anne’s the bees’ knees than Left-wingers think Churchill is anything more than an ivory-tower idiot. But he has been given lectures and guest lectures to thousands of students, both before and after the little Eichman incident. Perhaps it’s a question of liberals and conservative (as far as those terms describes the persons on the fringes) using different venues to distribute their ideas. There are also Cindy Sheehan. Yvonne Ridley. George Galloway, etc. lots of people to pick from, and of course yesterday a chap over in GD said the sole purpose the USA invaded Iraq was to kill as many Arabs as possible, which kinda makes Ann Coulter look all mellow and moderate by comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/72 "2006-06-09T14:35:08Z")
I’ve read the dust jacket. I find it disturbing that in this book, Ms. Coulter seems to line up with creationists. Perhaps I’m missing a nuance that would be revealed if I read the book, but it sure seems to me that she is adopting a position that evolution is a flawed doctrine. I can’t claim to be an authority on her oeuvre, but I am unaware of any earlier works rejecting evolution on its merits. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/73 "2006-06-09T14:35:51Z")
> [@well he's back](#): > > … Sweet Jesus I don’t understand how she became so poular - other than the short skirts. I hate her with the passion of a million suns. But that’s the very reason! She is so popular _because_ she is hated “with the passion of a million suns” by those on the left, on the principle, hey, if she’s detested that much she must be doing something right. Such idols of the right or left are often created by the very venom with which they’re attacked by opponents. I’m sure the thing that Coulter dreads most is that her enemies completely ignore her. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/74 "2006-06-09T14:45:24Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > But he has been given lectures and guest lectures to thousands of students, both before and after the little Eichman incident. Perhaps it’s a question of liberals and conservative (as far as those terms describes the persons on the fringes) using different venues to distribute their ideas. > > There are also Cindy Sheehan. Yvonne Ridley. George Galloway, etc. lots of people to pick from, and of course yesterday a chap over in GD said the sole purpose the USA invaded Iraq was to kill as many Arabs as possible, which kinda makes Ann Coulter look all mellow and moderate by comparison. Nobody knew who the fuck Ward Churchill was before that statement and he hasn’t made a career of selling shit like that in popular books. He isn’t comprable. Nobody on the left is comparable. George Galloway isn’t even a fucking American. Yvonne Ridley? Cindy Sheehan? Are you fucking high? Ridley is a British journalist who converted to Islam after being held hostage by the Taliban for three years. I’m sure you think that makes her evil, but how does it make her a liberal? What the fuck is liberal about Islam or the Taliban? What has Cindy Sheehan ever said that’s comparable to the kind of filth spewed by your hero, Ann Coulter? ---
**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/75 "2006-06-09T15:04:07Z")
**Rune** , Chuchill was one of the ivory-tower types I referenced in my first post – I didn’t use his name because I couldn’t be bothered to look it up, but he’s definately one of the guys I was thinking. of. His comments are, IMO, every bit as crazy and extreme as Ann’s, but the two really aren’t comparable otherwise, I don’t think. Ann makes a living spouting this stuff to the public. Churchill is not a public figure in that same way, although his comments _did_ receive national attention. ---
**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/76 "2006-06-09T15:13:49Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I find it disturbing that in this book, Ms. Coulter seems to line up with creationists. Perhaps I’m missing a nuance that would be revealed if I read the book, but it sure seems to me that she is adopting a position that evolution is a flawed doctrine. Yes, this is actually why I don’t want to read the book. Her nonsense on the 9-11 widows is just par for her course – more of the sillyness that I’ve come to expect from her and that I view with amusement, for the most part, rather than outrage. But if she’s politicizing and attacking _science_ now, well that’s gonna piss me off! I kind of have a feeling I should read that section of the book, though, before complaining, since I always bitch about people who complain about books they haven’t read… She’s never written about science before, so far as I know, so maybe she isn’t really saying what the book jacket seems to be saying she’s saying. And the interviews I’ve heard with her all focus on the 9-11 widow stuff, so I haven’t been able to get a sense (from the horse’s mouth) of her ‘theories’ on evolution. The only clue I’ve got is that, when it’s been mentioned in interviews, she uses the term ‘Darwinism’ instead of ‘evolution.’ For whatever that’s worth. God – someone else read the damned thing, please, so I don’t have to! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/77 "2006-06-09T15:14:27Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I’ve read the dust jacket. > > I find it disturbing that in this book, Ms. Coulter seems to line up with creationists. Perhaps I’m missing a nuance that would be revealed if I read the book, but it sure seems to me that she is adopting a position that evolution is a flawed doctrine. > > I can’t claim to be an authority on her oeuvre, but I am unaware of any earlier works rejecting evolution on its merits. She goes a lot further than saying it’s “flawed” (and it’s not a “doctrine”), she calls it a “liberal creation myth” and compares it to Nazism. Here are some quotes from the book\*: > [@](#): > > Liberals’ creation myth is Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, which is about one notch above Scientology in scientific rigor. It’s a make-believe story, based on a theory that is a tautology, with no proof in the scientist’s laboratory or the fossil record – and that’s after 150 years of very determined looking. We wouldn’t still be talking about it but for the fact that liberals’ think evolution disproves God. > [@](#): > > After Dover, no school district will dare breathe a word about 'intelligent design,’ unless they want to risk being bankrupted by ACLU lawsuits. The Darwinists have saved the secular sanctity of their temples: the public schools. They didn’t win on science, persuasion, or the evidence. They won the way liberals always win: by finding a court to hand them everything they want on a silver platter > [@](#): > > While Marx saw the ‘struggle’ as among classes, Hitler conceived of the struggle as among the races. ‘Mein Kampf’ means ‘My Struggle,’ which Hitler described in unmistakably Darwinian terms. She also calls evolution a “cult,” a “fetish,” the “liberal state religion,” claims that its “contradicted by the fossil record.” On and on. Her primary expert source in the book is prominent IDist, William Demski. \*Quotes pulled from [this gushing review](http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15314) on Human Events Online. ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/78 "2006-06-09T15:16:07Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > There are also Cindy Sheehan. Yvonne Ridley. George Galloway, etc. lots of people to pick from, and of course yesterday a chap over in GD said the sole purpose the USA invaded Iraq was to kill as many Arabs as possible, which kinda makes Ann Coulter look all mellow and moderate by comparison. I’m definately on the “these people aren’t really as prominent” side of the fence, but an additional point: Do you really believe _accusing_ someone of being motivated by the desire to murder makes proposing that people who disagree with you be executed for treason mellow and moderate? If you were suggesting that this person was saying that going over and killing as many Arabs as possible was a good thing then maybe you would have a point. But you’re not, so you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/79 "2006-06-09T15:24:27Z")
> [@Jess](#): > > Yes, this is actually why I don’t want to read the book. Her nonsense on the 9-11 widows is just par for her course – more of the sillyness that I’ve come to expect from her and that I view with amusement, for the most part, rather than outrage. But if she’s politicizing and attacking _science_ now, well that’s gonna piss me off! > > I kind of have a feeling I should read that section of the book, though, before complaining, since I always bitch about people who complain about books they haven’t read… She’s never written about science before, so far as I know, so maybe she isn’t really saying what the book jacket seems to be saying she’s saying. And the interviews I’ve heard with her all focus on the 9-11 widow stuff, so I haven’t been able to get a sense (from the horse’s mouth) of her ‘theories’ on evolution. The only clue I’ve got is that, when it’s been mentioned in interviews, she uses the term ‘Darwinism’ instead of ‘evolution.’ For whatever that’s worth. > > God – someone else read the damned thing, please, so I don’t have to! Here’s an online interview from [Cybercast News Service](http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/200606/SPE20060606a.html) which touches briefly on evolution. I wish the broadcast media would go at her a lot harder on this issue because it’s an extermely vulnerable and easily destryable position for her. My guess is that the major media doesn’t want to upset creationists in their audience by informing them that evolution is fact. I would also guess that most of the talking head Matt Lauer types don’t know anything about the science anyway and are afraid to look dumb by trying to discuss it. > [@](#): > > Cybercast News Service: Most people consider evolution to be a branch of science, or at least a scientific theory, yet in “Godless,” you refer to it as a “cult” and a “fetish.” What is your basis for calling it that? > > Ann Coulter: There is no evidence that it is true. The fossil record contradicts it, and it is a theory that cannot be disproved. Whatever happens is said to “prove” evolution. This is the very definition of a pseudoscience, like astrology. (Of course, I would say that. I’m just a Capricorn, aren’t I?) > > Cybercast News Service: Creationism is not considered a science because it can’t be observed or empirically tested. You assert in your book that the theory of evolution has the same problems. Why then has the U.S. public school system been willing to accept the theory of evolution, but snubbed creationism? > > Ann Coulter: Because evolution is the official state religion. Although it is possible to believe in God and evolution, it is not possible to not believe in God without believing in evolution – otherwise, atheists have no explanation for why we are here. Thus, it’s very important for the liberal clergy to force small school children to believe in a discredited mystery religion from the 19th century – evolution – in order to prepare them to believe in the nonexistence of God, one of the main goals of the American public education system. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610/80 "2006-06-09T15:29:14Z")
Coulter’s decidedly un-christian attitudes have not gone unoticed evenbt the religious right wing… [Calling Off Ann Coulter](http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/09/01/harding) > [@](#): > > Yet in the days after Harding’s announcement, a small group of Harding alumni began voicing their discontent on their blogs. Mike Cope, a minister at Highland Church of Christ in Abilene, Tex., complained that Coulter lives in a “black/white ‘I’m-right-and-you’re-an-idiot’ world. If you don’t agree with her then you’re a bleeding heart liberal who doesn’t deserve to live here.” The problem, he said, was not that Coulter is conservative, but that her views are un-Christian. > > That view was echoed by Greg Kendall-Ball, a graduate divinity student at Abilene Christian University. He cited comments Coulter had made about countries that harbor terrorists — “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity” — and about campus radicals: “When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.” > > In inviting Coulter to the campus, wrote Kendall-Ball, whose father and sisters are also Harding alums, the university had “failed to uphold the Christ-like spirit that Harding seeks to embody.” It troubled him, he said, that “someone advocating violence, forced conversions, physical intimidation and who has routinely expressed anti- or non-Christian views is welcomed and given one of the more prestigious speaking engagements on the school’s calendar.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-fucking-hell-you-soulless-shrill-bitch/359610.md?page=5)