# Go to Hell Larry Nassar, Michigan State University and the US Olympic Gymnastics Program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 23, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266 "2018-01-23T02:05:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/21 "2018-01-24T02:20:17Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Having a little trouble understanding how protecting this guy gets them millions of dollars. It doesn’t _directly_ gets them money. However, if you look the other way at the crimes of the rich and powerful and participate in the same system you, too, may become wildly successful. If you challenge the rich and powerful you risk being crushed and having nothing. Make your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/22 "2018-01-24T17:41:06Z")
Was just sentenced to 40-175 years. I don’t think he’ll make it two before a gruesome bear attack. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/23 "2018-01-24T17:43:03Z")
I still vote for putting the victim statements he couldn’t stand on continuous loop in his cell, then trying to ensure he has a long, long life. I don’t want to see him check out too early and thereby evade punishment. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/24 "2018-01-24T17:56:15Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Was just sentenced to 40-175 years. I don’t think he’ll make it two before a gruesome bear attack. Plus the 60 years he was previously given for possessing 37,000 pictures of graphic child porn. ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/25 "2018-01-24T18:29:46Z")
The man is a fucking pig. I wish him the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/26 "2018-01-24T18:31:00Z")
He strikes me as the sort that justifies things in his mind with the belief his victims are enjoying the acts as much as he is. When confronted with proof that is not true the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/27 "2018-01-24T18:51:11Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Was just sentenced to 40-175 years. I don’t think he’ll make it two before a gruesome bear attack. He’ll be fine. Yeah, Dahmer got killed in prison, but he refused to be in a protection unit and went into the general population. Prisons know how to deal with protecting notorious criminals, it’s part of their job. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/28 "2018-01-24T18:54:28Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > He strikes me as the sort that justifies things in his mind with the belief his victims are enjoying the acts as much as he is. When confronted with proof that is not true the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. From the letter he wrote after entering a plea deal: > [@](#): > > So I’m trying to avoid a trial to save the stress to my community, my family…yet look what’s happening. It’s wrong. I was a good doctor, because my treatments worked and those patients that are now speaking out were the same ones that praised and came back over and over. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/29 "2018-01-24T19:14:41Z")
That just proves you can be technically good at medicine while also being a loathsome human being. ---
**Author:** ![StraightTalk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straighttalk/32/9982_2.png) [@StraightTalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StraightTalk)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/30 "2018-01-24T19:19:56Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > For those of us in the Lansing area, it’s been pretty steady evening news fare for several months now. Yes, this was a tragedy and things could have been handled better. MSU has invited the Michigan AG to do a complete review of its handling of the affair. The mess will be cleaned up and I think that some heads will roll. Does President Simon need to step down? In my opinion, yes. She is at the top of the organization and the proper checks and procedures weren’t in place to protect these young ladies. > > What ever became of the rule that when doctors had to examine patients in intimate areas, that a nurse had to be present at all times? Seems like a rule like that would have prevented much of this. > > As for Tom Izzo, he simply mangled his speech. From [the Detroit News:](http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2018/01/22/izzo-bad-choice-words-choice-thought/109709390/) > > (Smith is Paul W Smith, longtime host for WJR Detroit) > > Yes, my beloved MSU deserves the scrutiny of law enforcement and the NCAA. I hope that we take corrective action as well as Penn State cleaned up after their incident a few years back. I heard one account account where Nassar assaulted one young girl while her mother was right there in the room. I think it was one of the victim testimonies. How did that happen? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/31 "2018-01-24T19:28:51Z")
Some people put too much trust in doctors? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/32 "2018-01-24T19:39:48Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Some people put too much trust in doctors? That, and visions of Olympic glory are sure to cloud judgement. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/33 "2018-01-24T19:43:27Z")
> [@StraightTalk](#): > > I heard one account account where Nassar assaulted one young girl while her mother was right there in the room. I think it was one of the victim testimonies. How did that happen? I know one of the mothers who experienced this, and described it on Facebook. She said he positioned himself between the table and the mother, and draped a towel over the girl while groping her underneath it. She had no idea what was going on as it was happening. Later she was horrified to realize she could have stopped it as it was happening, had she known, or the daughter spoken up. Her daughter would have been a very young teenager at the time. Another mother who had been in the room, responding to this, commented that she had been uncomfortable with some of the positions he put her daughter in, but thought, “He’s an Olympic doctor. He must know what he’s doing.” ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/34 "2018-01-24T19:50:02Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > [Michigan State trustee: More to worry about than 'this Nassar thing'](http://on.freep.com/2DB6qkV) > > Meanwhile, Ferguson insists the scandal won’t tarnish Simon’s legacy as university president, that it’s “wrong” to even talk about the possibility of Simon retiring,and is confident that the attorney-general investigation into MSU will find its “senior people are not complicit in what this pervert did.” > > "Meanwhile, Ferguson insists the scandal won’t tarnish Simon’s legacy as university president, that it’s “wrong” to even talk about the possibility of Simon retiring,and is confident that the attorney-general investigation into MSU will find its “senior people are not complicit in what this pervert did.” > > All of the above is from a MSU Trustee in support of President Simon. What a fucking douche. I hope no one in his family is ever violated. Rachel Denhollander (the original victim who came forward) gave the final statement, and she alluded to this attitude when she asked the court "What are little girls worth? ". ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/35 "2018-01-24T20:13:01Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I still vote for putting the victim statements he couldn’t stand on continuous loop in his cell, then trying to ensure he has a long, long life. I don’t want to see him check out too early and thereby evade punishment. There’s a short story (probably in _Dangerous Visions_ or _Again, Dangerous Visions_ but I couldn’t swear to that) where this is indeed the punishment for crimes. Pretty cruel (in the cruel and unusual meaning) to my thinking, but it does scratch the itch for revenge. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/36 "2018-01-24T20:24:08Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > …This garbage even wrote a letter asking the judge to put an end to the women’s testimonies, as it was too much for him. Six pages worth of sniveling, I believe. Her honor told him to deal with it… Was it [this letter](https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/01/24/judge-reads-larry-nassar-letter-tosses-bts-ip.cnn)? The judge is a piece of work, and I mean that totally as a compliment. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/37 "2018-01-24T20:44:55Z")
The audience laughing at choice bits really makes the piece a work of art. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/38 "2018-01-24T20:57:22Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > It doesn’t _directly_ gets them money. However, if you look the other way at the crimes of the rich and powerful and participate in the same system you, too, may become wildly successful. If you challenge the rich and powerful you risk being crushed and having nothing. I don’t think it’s just this; look how many people (like alumni) who defended (and still defend) Penn State. It’s as if people make up their mind early about a person or institution and just can’t move their opinions off that rail no matter what they hear. And some people are just afraid of rocking the boat. I’d really like to see some people who protected Nassar go on trial. It seems to me we really need to crack down more on that. I know we can’t prosecute people who look the other way but if details were brought to their attention they should act. Lastly, I’m a bit disappointed in those around McKayla Maroney who advised her to accept a settlement that prevented her from going public about Nassar. Didn’t this happen a few times with Weinstein as well? How many future assaults would be prevented if we stopped accepting sealed settlements? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/39 "2018-01-24T21:03:47Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Was it [this letter](https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/01/24/judge-reads-larry-nassar-letter-tosses-bts-ip.cnn)? > > The judge is a piece of work, and I mean that totally as a compliment. I’m surprised she didn’t reach for the hand sanitizer after she tossed it aside. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/40 "2018-01-24T21:07:42Z")
What floors me about this whole thing is how many people had to know about this and remained silent. They’re all complicit in this. But none of them will ever see the inside of a court over it. :mad: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266.md?page=3)