# Go To Hell Senator kennedy!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 25, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074 "2006-02-25T16:19:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/81 "2006-02-27T23:14:48Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> In my opinion, the bigger issue here is the way that members of Congress—both Republicans and Democrats—subvert the spirit of the legislative process by slipping small amendments like this into large, complex bills, and hoping that they get by without being noticed. This sort of shit goes on all the time, and it allows the passage of many little pieces of legislation that would never pass if they were voted on as discrete items.

Hear! Hear!

The only complaint I’ve got with this paragraph is that you neglect to mention that usually it’s a hope that is rewarded.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/82 "2006-02-27T23:32:41Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Oh, and happy 74th birthday! Only in Massachusetts!

Ever heard of Strom Thurmond?

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/83 "2006-02-27T23:36:36Z")

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> [@EarthStone777](#):
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> Heck, didn’t you know that all of Nantucket belongs to them?
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> A couple of years ago, the company I was working for sent a 30’ truck with crew to the Kennedy compound on Nantucket to do some work for the day.

:dubious: I’m not aware of a Kennedy compound on Nantucket. There is one in Hyannis, but that is on the mainland.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/84 "2006-02-28T00:18:48Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> Hear! Hear!
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> The only complaint I’ve got with this paragraph is that you neglect to mention that usually it’s a hope that is rewarded.

I thought i addressed that isse with the follwing sentence:

> [@mhendo](#):
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> This sort of shit goes on all the time, and it **allows the passage of many little pieces of legislation that would never pass if they were voted on as discrete items**.

What i was saying here was that many of these surreptitiously-inserted amendments do, in fact, sneak past unnoticed and get enshrined in law—which is exactly what their sponsors wanted.

There’s actually a really good parody of this procedure on an episode of _The Simpsons_, where the family manages to attach an amendment to a larger bill while no-one is looking.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/85 "2006-02-28T00:31:46Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> :dubious: I’m not aware of a Kennedy compound on Nantucket. There is one in Hyannis, but that is on the mainland.

Quite correct. The [Kennedy compound in Hyannis](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Compound) does front on Nantucket Sound, and someone anxious to, shall we say, trump up some such incident might well overlook such a small detail.

Or perhaps our friend confused Nantucket for Martha’s Vineyard, where Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis had a home known as [Red Gate Farm](http://www.mvgazette.com/news/2001/06/08/at_the_kennedy_compound.php)? Spending time there, she and her family we can be sure conducted themselves as one might expect a Kennedy to behave:

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> Mrs. Onassis was widely liked and respected in Aquinnah as well as on the Vineyard as a whole, and two factors in particular contributed to the esteem in which she was held.
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> First, she jealously guarded the integrity of the delicately balanced environment in which her estate was set, frequently turning to Island wildlife experts and biologists for advice and assistance.
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> Second, amid a life of more unwanted public attention than can be grasped by reason, she came to the Vineyard as a ship in rough water comes to harbor. She rode her bicycle and paddled her kayak, saw family and friends, and sometimes drove down-Island to see her chum Dorothy West, who was one of the writers in her stable at Doubleday. She respected the traditional values of the Vineyard, and the Vineyard in turn granted her privacy here.
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> It appears that now the Kennedy-Schlossberg family intends to maintain those qualities of respect for the land and private dignity.

One hesitates to rely on the incident as related, given the factual inaccuracies in which it’s embedded.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/86 "2006-02-28T00:32:35Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I thought i addressed that isse with the follwing sentence:What i was saying here was that many of these surreptitiously-inserted amendments do, in fact, sneak past unnoticed and get enshrined in law—which is exactly what their sponsors wanted.

You’re right. My apologies. All I can plead is exhaustion - I’ve been up far too long, and my reading comprehension is dropping towards zero.

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**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/87 "2006-02-28T07:06:33Z")

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For anyone interested in the Chappaquiddick affair, I found the book “Chappaquiddick: The Real Story” by James E. T. Lange and Katherine, Jr. Dewitt to be very rational, unemotional, balanced and informative.

YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/88 "2006-02-28T17:15:24Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
He’s probably gone out for a drink with **Clothahump**.  
[/QUOTE]

Bite me, **ETF**. Why are you trying to drag me into this?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-senator-kennedy/346074/89 "2006-02-28T19:05:22Z")

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Plus, Truman Capote said Ted Kennedy has a tiny little dick. So there’s that.

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