# Goblins webcomic discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075 "2010-03-03T02:04:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/241 "2011-10-24T18:45:35Z")

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Well, there are the other demons … and the blade beetles … and any other unpleasant creatures down there … and the Viper Clan … and Kore … and MinMax and Forgath, who think that his friends want to destroy the world … what am I leaving out?

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/242 "2011-10-25T21:44:04Z")

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New one is up! May I start the round of thunderous applause for **Algher**?

::golf clap::

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/243 "2011-10-25T21:50:06Z")

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Sooo… does this count as dying horribly then ? I mean, the horribly part is a cinch but since he seems to be right back (if a bit… shaken ? In shock ? Wide eyed insane ?) his experience lacks the certain finality that death tends to have. More of an HaveAnHorribleNDE, yes ?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/244 "2011-10-25T21:50:06Z")

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Yay! I never even thought about his replacement arm having a soul of its own.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/245 "2011-10-25T21:51:14Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Sooo… does this count as dying horribly then ? I mean, the horribly part is a cinch but since he seems to be right back (if a bit… shaken ? In shock ? Wide eyed insane ?) his experience lacks the certain finality that death tends to have. More of an HaveAnHorribleNDE, yes ?

I would imagine that getting eaten by a demon would count as dying horribly…especially considering the massive amounts of blood and gore it entailed. The fact that the deal was cheated on (even if inadvertently) and he got a redo doesn’t mean he didn’t die.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/246 "2011-10-25T21:58:15Z")

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I’m curious about what his transparent ears mean. I know that Thunt finishes up the coloring work in the several days after an update, so maybe it’ll look different when he’s done.

Now that what he’s been dreading his whole life has happened, will Dies stop shaking constantly? Will he discover his backbone?

And is there still a ring of scary demon minions standing in the room?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/247 "2011-10-25T23:41:09Z")

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I note also that we can’t see his left arm in the panel where he returns. Does he still have his klikky arm? Does he have his own arm back?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/248 "2011-10-25T23:46:09Z")

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> [@Algher](#):
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> Is Dies’ arm sentient / have a soul? Does the demon get in trouble for taking two souls for the price of one, thereby violating the contract somehow?

Go you. Well done!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/249 "2011-10-25T23:59:05Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> I’m curious about what his transparent ears mean. I know that Thunt finishes up the coloring work in the several days after an update, so maybe it’ll look different when he’s done.

I think it’s a visual effect of Dies “fading” back into the mortal plane. The squiggly lines in the previous panel kinda-sorta look like the beginning of that process (if you squint your eyes _just_ right and make up your mind that that’s what you’re seeing…)

> [@shantih](#):
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> Now that what he’s been dreading his whole life has happened, will Dies stop shaking constantly? Will he discover his backbone?

He should be able to (although even with the shivering he’s been quite heroic already, and old habits DO die hard, you should pardon the expression).

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> And is there still a ring of scary demon minions standing in the room?

Good question. They were the demoness’s minions, after all. But presumably they possessed souls of their own. Maybe they’ll do like the Winkies did in _The Wizard of Oz_ and give them the [del]witch’s broomstick[/del] Bloodlight Orb out of gratitude.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/250 "2011-10-26T00:02:51Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I note also that we can’t see his left arm in the panel where he returns. Does he still have his klikky arm? Does he have his own arm back?

Very good question. That “soul” has to be somewhere, though. I’m thinking that giving him his original arm back seems a little _deus ex_, if you catch my drift.

Tune in Friday, I guess.

Am I the only one who thought the whole “Checkhov’s Escape Clause” thing was going to be rendered a LOT more horribly than it was, though?

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/251 "2011-10-26T00:22:48Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Good question. They were the demoness’s minions, after all. But presumably they possessed souls of their own.

What are the minions, though? Are they necessarily demons themselves? Aside from the part of the exposition where she’s explaining demons in general, she speaks in singular terms–“I was captured and trapped here…” They’re also not chained like she was. On the other hand, they look demonic enough, and they are apparently sapient.

If they are demons, maybe she summoned them, and they will return to their own plane now that she’s gone. Of course, that would still leave all those blade beetles. it would be a waste not to do _something_ with them.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/252 "2011-10-26T00:40:47Z")

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My guess is that the goblins somehow manage to play the minions and the blade beetles off against each other, and their Santa Claus DM lets them get away with it intact.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/253 "2011-10-26T01:08:39Z")

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I am just posting to enjoy the glow of a damned good guess. I won’t get another good one until 2020 probably.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/254 "2011-10-26T06:24:50Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Sooo… does this count as dying horribly then ? I mean, the horribly part is a cinch but since he seems to be right back (if a bit… shaken ? In shock ? Wide eyed insane ?) his experience lacks the certain finality that death tends to have. More of an HaveAnHorribleNDE, yes ?

As long as Dies thinks it does, it does.

So whats the XP on defeating a demon??

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/255 "2011-10-30T02:09:39Z")

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So who’s the glowy creature that’s tearing the demons apart?

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**Author:** ![Aestivalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Aestivalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aestivalis)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/256 "2011-10-30T03:33:30Z")

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That’s the orc from earlier, right?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/257 "2011-10-30T03:33:38Z")

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That’s the orc that the demoness was previously tormenting. He’s free now, too.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/258 "2011-10-30T06:57:35Z")

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Does he have see through hair and see through lips?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/259 "2011-10-30T09:29:52Z")

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Yes, yes he does.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/260 "2011-10-31T19:15:07Z")

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So how much XP does the Orc have from fighting the demoness and her brood for all of that time?

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