# Goblins webcomic discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075 "2010-03-03T02:04:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/321 "2013-09-21T18:35:55Z")
but it did. He now has the new IME matter instead of scar tissue is all… ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/322 "2013-09-21T21:59:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Second, I was expecting the group to throw psi-max into one of the oblivion holes, not into the finish circle. That would have given him what he wanted, oblivion. Also would have created a paradox, since he never would have existed, therefore the holes couldn’t exist. 😕 This way, he lives forever knowing he was beaten and outsmarted by a bunch of inferiors. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/323 "2013-09-22T03:21:40Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Another possibility just occurred to me. Minmax, it’s generally assumed, has threes in both Int and Wis. That’s not just stupid - that’s either profoundly retarded, or severely brain damaged. Going by his stats, Minmax is in _Flowers for Algernon_ territory. > > So, when he touched the gears in the maze a few strips back, did it heal _that_, too? > [@Miller](#): > > Having two normal eyes is also his “natural state,” but the machine didn’t fix that, it just changed it purple. > [@Miller](#): > > Right. Kin’s tail is also a different color. Whatever the gears did, it clearly didn’t return them to their “natural state,” but some rough approximation - particularly rough in Minmax’s case, as he still has the scar and is missing a pupil. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a lot more to what those gears did to everyone than is immediately apparent. I also wonder if it’s significant that Minmax’s scar turned the same purple as psi-Minmax. Yeah, that’s the “psionic implant” that I theorized about above. Though it might be a graft, not an implant — one of the newer things in D&D 3.5 that was introduced about the same time I quit playing was “grafts”. There were all kinds of grafts, including psionic. That would suggest that Kin’s tail and Forgath’s beard are also grafts. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/324 "2013-09-22T06:34:44Z")
The gears replaced Forgath’s obvilioned beard, perhaps they would fix psionic minmax even if he were chucked into a hole? ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/325 "2013-09-22T13:02:12Z")
Yeah, I was worried about the implications of Minmax throwing Psi-max into the winner’s circle, until I re-read the last few pages and realized what Sapphire meant when she said “I’ve also switched the maze reset from automatic to manual. This will give us more control of the place.” in panel 3 of [this strip](http://www.goblinscomic.org/09092013/). Whew! ETA: What I still **don’t** understand is what magical treasure Psi-max “selected” that got him returned to his reality, and when he did it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/326 "2013-09-22T14:56:41Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > Yeah, I was worried about the implications of Minmax throwing Psi-max into the winner’s circle, until I re-read the last few pages and realized what Sapphire meant when she said “I’ve also switched the maze reset from automatic to manual. This will give us more control of the place.” in panel 3 of [this strip](http://www.goblinscomic.org/09092013/). Whew! :smack: Don’t know how I missed that… > [@chorpler](#): > > ETA: What I still **don’t** understand is what magical treasure Psi-max “selected” that got him returned to his reality, and when he did it. He didn’t select one. [del]Stepping in[/del] Entering the red circle activates the pre-recorded announcement and sends the person home. There isn’t a lot of room, though, to get at the wall of prizes without touching the statue. I wonder exactly how it responds to being touched. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/327 "2013-09-24T15:07:38Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > He didn’t select one. [del]Stepping in[/del] Entering the red circle activates the pre-recorded announcement and sends the person home. > > There isn’t a lot of room, though, to get at the wall of prizes without touching the statue. I wonder exactly how it responds to being touched. Oh, so his motion into the red square was just a continuation of Minmax throwing him, not an automated “You selected your treasure, so now we’re pulling you into the red circle” motion? That’s my one complaint about Goblins; I’m often confused about the specific sequences of events during the battle scenes or other action sequences. I’m not sure if it’s just his drawing style, or if it’s just that I’ve never played D&D for real, but I generally have to wait until somebody explains what’s happening in each panel before I feel I understand properly. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/328 "2013-09-24T15:09:30Z")
It’s not just you. Thunt’s drawing style does make action sequences very hard to follow. Knowledge of D&D doesn’t help, since he pays only vague attention to the rules of the game. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/329 "2013-09-24T19:26:48Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > It is pretty explicit in [this comic](http://www.goblinscomic.org/07152005/). which leads to a page with a black/grey area where the comic is? I have noticed this, only the newest comic is available now? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/330 "2013-09-24T20:23:21Z")
I see that comic fine. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/331 "2013-09-24T20:49:33Z")
Same here, it shows up fine for me. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/332 "2013-09-24T21:02:59Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > It is pretty explicit in [this comic](http://www.goblinscomic.org/07152005/). This may be redundant, but it’s only the adventurers who are being run by players. The goblins and other monsters are all NPCs (non-player characters) as are background humans, even important ones. > [@DrDeth](#): > > which leads to a page with a black/grey area where the comic is? I have noticed this, only the newest comic is available now? It looks like the site is having problems. With luck, it will be better later. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/333 "2013-09-29T22:23:45Z")
[New one’s up](http://www.goblinscomic.org/09292013/), and I’m going to amend my previous theory: I do think that Minmax and Forgath are sent from the Maze of Many to the goblins via the Jade Teapot, but I think that Ruby will impersonate our Kin and be the one to use the Jade Teapot, thinking that she’s saving our Kin. Of course, I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/334 "2013-10-03T00:14:43Z")
I’m thinking she’s going to use it to frame our Kin for something, and try to make Forgath and Minmax turn on her. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/335 "2013-11-20T20:23:12Z")
Yay, actual [goblins](http://www.goblinscomic.org/11162013/) are back in the comic. > [@Miller](#): > > I’m thinking she’s going to use it to frame our Kin for something, and try to make Forgath and Minmax turn on her. It was much more insidious than that! So evil. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/336 "2013-11-21T09:54:15Z")
I wonder how long it will take for Kin to realize that Minmax was right about the True Seeing bond he shares with her. And what she’s going to do about it. Also, what are the other three Kins going to do about the fact that only one of them will be able to return hhome with the Jade Tea Party Set? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/337 "2013-11-21T11:43:39Z")
I wonder if Minmax is going to apologise to them? He now knows that monsters have hearts too. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/338 "2013-11-21T12:08:10Z")
That’s probably less important to him right now than his belief that these particular monsters pose an existential threat to the freedom of all human adventurers in the realm. The only way out of a deadly showdown that I can imagine is if Kin follows Minmax, recognizes the GAP, and puts in a good word for them. And even that wouldn’t give Complains of Names any incentive to call it squarsies with Minmax. Maybe Kore’s imminent approach will precipitate a melee that’s confusing enough to permit an escape. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/339 "2013-11-21T12:27:29Z")
What race is Kore? Dwarf? I bet the racist axe gets used by Forgath. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/340 "2013-11-21T23:12:06Z")
That has potential, but Forgath wouldn’t be proficient in the axe, so a lot of that +7 would be wasted. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075.md?page=18)