# Goblins webcomic discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075 "2010-03-03T02:04:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/21 "2010-03-20T06:25:57Z")

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I thought that the half-plant thing was just a depiction of Barkskin at first, but he forms bows, arrows, and scimitars, at least, out of his wood.

Dellyn mentions being a high level ranger, and being able to cast clerical spells. Plus, he’s been the leader of the ELITE guards of the city. I think that Brassmoon is large enough that it would have a higher level NPC as Captain of the Elite Guards. His home showed quite a few trophies, which argues for a much higher level than 4th level ranger (plus whatever other levels in other classes that he’s taken).

Do clerics have lower XP requirements for levelling up than fighters do? I know that they did in one of the systems I played with, but I can’t remember if it was in the official rules, or if it was one of the DM’s own special rules. I was going to say that it’s possible that Forgath was off doing something to earn some XP while Minmax was doing something else, and then I realized that Minmax is NOT going to let a chance to get XP pass him by. Unless, of course, he had the opportunity to throw someone through a window.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/22 "2010-03-20T17:38:17Z")

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In 3rd edition, all classes use the same XP chart to level up, so a level X cleric would need just as much experience as a level x fighter.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/23 "2010-03-21T04:46:48Z")

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Hmmm, OK. I didn’t play much in the 3rd edition. Most of my playing experience was with a DM who had his own unique setting and rules…he based most of the setting on the original 3 rulebooks, but added stuff from the 1st and 2nd edition AD&D rules as he pleased. Yes, I said AD&D.

There’s also a discussion on the Goblins forum of just what level Dellyn is.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/24 "2010-03-24T11:02:26Z")

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[New strip is up](http://goblins.keenspot.com/d/20100323.html) and Forgath shows that he has a very smart player controlling him. Forgath was able to listen to reason during the battle with the goblins and now he’s using the Anymug in a very wise and creative way. Made of wood? Don’t mess with a certain Dwarf that has the epic patience to travel with Minmax.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/25 "2010-03-24T12:01:00Z")

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Nice! Did Dellyn just go from half man/half tree to all man/half on fire?

Incidentally, **Wolverine** , thanks for starting this thread! I’ve seen mention of _Goblins_ here and there in CS but never looked into it until this thread. Between this and _The Order of the Stick_, I’m probably more familiar with D&D than anyone else who has never actually played the game!

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/26 "2010-03-24T14:28:09Z")

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Mmm, still no sign of Kin…

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/27 "2010-03-25T14:51:51Z")

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I wonder just how many hit points MinMax has. He was hit by Delyn at least 3 times - unless Delyn is rolling ones, he should be dead. Even with ones, the sword and strength bonuses would likely be considerable. Only good thing for MinMax is that whether you are at full HP or at 1 HP, you fight the same.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/28 "2010-03-25T15:00:44Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I wonder just how many hit points MinMax has. He was hit by Delyn at least 3 times - unless Delyn is rolling ones, he should be dead. Even with ones, the sword and strength bonuses would likely be considerable. Only good thing for MinMax is that whether you are at full HP or at 1 HP, you fight the same.

I’m sure he’s fine. He probably traded away one of his kidneys for an extra Improved Toughness feat.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/29 "2010-03-25T18:30:10Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I’m sure he’s fine. He probably traded away one of his kidneys for an extra Improved Toughness feat.

If he’s going to hang around Forgath, he’s going to need both kidneys and an extra liver. Now his spleen and appendix…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/30 "2010-03-30T21:37:46Z")

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[**'OOK WHUK YOU GIG KOO 'EE!**](http://goblins.keenspot.com/)\*

Nice. And it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Except maybe that “Paladin” that’s on the Goblins’ trail. I’ve had just about enough of Dellyn, anyway. Maybe Kin will finish him off.

\*For future viewers: Greetings from the Past! This refers to the March 29 strip.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/31 "2010-03-30T22:43:42Z")

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Damn, _someone’s_ having a tough week – and serve him right, too.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/32 "2010-03-31T03:13:12Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [**'OOK WHUK YOU GIG KOO 'EE!**](http://goblins.keenspot.com/)\*
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> Nice. And it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Except maybe that “Paladin” that’s on the Goblins’ trail. I’ve had just about enough of Dellyn, anyway. Maybe Kin will finish him off.
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> \*For future viewers: Greetings from the Past! This refers to the March 29 strip.

It’s pretty easy to link to the strip by date. Just put YearMonthDate before .html  
[http://goblins.keenspot.com/d/20100329.html](http://goblins.keenspot.com/d/20100329.html)

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/33 "2010-03-31T08:22:24Z")

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I’m sure that Forgath is every bit as contrite as he should be.

And I love Kore the paladin! I’ve been hoping that this person is female. With that armor/walking fortress, it’s sort of hard to tell.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/34 "2010-03-31T13:18:13Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> And I love Kore the paladin! I’ve been hoping that this person is female. With that armor/walking fortress, it’s sort of hard to tell.

I would point out Kore has a beard, but that doesn’t necessarily narrow the possibilities when it comes to dwarves.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/35 "2010-03-31T16:45:07Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> And I love Kore the paladin! I’ve been hoping that this person is female. With that armor/walking fortress, it’s sort of hard to tell.

[_“You see, Evil is like a seed. And although you did not choose to interact with these lower beasts, by socializing with them, that seed has been placed within you. As a result you may one day grow to empathize with their evil ways. I cannot allow that risk to exist. All evil, even potential evil, must be eradicated.”_](http://goblins.keenspot.com/d/20050917.html)

Next panel: **KATHUNK**.

Real lovable.

On a less contentious note, does anyine think that, his point being made, Forgath will be filling the Anymug with a healing potion for Dellyn (surely he’ll be filling it with some for Minmax)? Or is he more likely to put Kin’s collar on him and hand her the rope?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/36 "2010-03-31T16:46:46Z")

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It’s already been explicitly mentioned in the strip that (at least some) female dwarves have beards. Minmax was taunting Forgath about having, in the past, slept with someone with a beard.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/37 "2010-03-31T17:02:51Z")

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Never mind about healing potions in the Anymug. I just re-read the page where they found out what it was and was reminded about no magical liquids.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/38 "2010-03-31T19:40:25Z")

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Got a link for that? I was wanting to re-read it myself, but didn’t want to slog through the whole archive to find it.

I seem to recall that I saw the possibility of flammable liquids at the time, too, and being surprised that Minmax didn’t (despite thinking of potions, acid, and molten lava).

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/39 "2010-03-31T23:52:38Z")

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> **[Goblins -](https://www.goblinscomic.org/d/20060424.html)**
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> Goblins is the story of a fantasy rpg through the eyes of the low-level monsters.

I seem to remember it from 1E. But if this is 1E, all rangers are good.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/40 "2010-04-01T00:05:12Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Mmm, still no sign of Kin…

If I were Kin, I’d use the distraction to get the hell out of there. Just because these 2 adventurers don’t approve of Goblinslayer’s cruelty doesn’t mean they won’t still _kill_ her when all is said and done.

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