# Goblins webcomic discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075 "2010-03-03T02:04:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/121 "2010-05-29T18:27:34Z")
OK, YAFGC starts out VERY well, thanks. I’ve been reading Dungeons & Denizens for quite a while, and I like it, but it DOES go through the occasional hiatus. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/122 "2010-05-29T21:20:03Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > OK, YAFGC starts out VERY well, thanks. I’ve been reading Dungeons & Denizens for quite a while, and I like it, but it DOES go through the occasional hiatus. I bought the dead tree edition ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/123 "2010-05-30T02:03:47Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > OK, YAFGC starts out VERY well, thanks. I’ve been reading Dungeons & Denizens for quite a while, and I like it, but it DOES go through the occasional hiatus. Oh yes, YAFGC is awesome. And it updates 7 days a week. And I’ve never seen him miss an update. Dungeons & Denizens is one I used to read but dropped, purely because of the sporadic updates. Some webcomics just seem to take forever to load, and I hate waiting and waiting only to have it finally load and show me the same comic that’s been there for three weeks now. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/124 "2010-05-30T02:28:01Z")
Another vote for YAFGC. It’s kind of surprising how good the comic is, considering that with a few exceptions it’s done entirely in pencil. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/125 "2010-05-30T02:54:51Z")
Check out The Ten Doctors by the same author as YAFGC. It’s finished now, and a very tight run. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/126 "2010-06-23T08:41:15Z")
No comic update this week due to him being on holiday. There is a vignette of a previous owner of that funky Paladin Axe tho, which includes mention of Kore. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/127 "2010-09-22T03:32:19Z")
I know this thread has lain dormant for a while, but [the current strip](http://www.goblinscomic.com/09212010-2/) is one of the sweetest things I’ve seen in a webcomic. Minmax really _does_ have some character to him. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/128 "2010-09-22T03:35:29Z")
That’s sweet! But the boy really did roll a 3 on intelligence, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/129 "2010-09-22T04:37:55Z")
That nearly brought a tear to my eye 🙂 Is that a bunch of mashed up berries that he used for “paint”? ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/130 "2010-09-22T04:55:06Z")
" . . . But you don’t have one normal thing about you." _sniff_ ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/131 "2010-09-22T06:06:58Z")
> [@](#): > > But the boy really did roll a 3 on intelligence, didn’t he? Yep, he did. And then he traded in at least a point for some combat related skill. > [@](#): > > Is that a bunch of mashed up berries that he used for “paint”? Yes, it is. Frankly, I’m surprised that he’s able to improvise to this degree. Kin doesn’t know when her birthday is. She says that she was too young to take note of it. So Minmax isn’t just being sweet, he’s giving her something that he considers “normal”. Now he doesn’t have to fight her, and get the dwarf pissed off at him. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/132 "2010-09-22T23:57:53Z")
Wow, that was amazingly sweet. I really wasn’t looking forward to seeing Minmax fight Kin so soon after her traumatic escape from the Goblinslayer. And instead, he gives her a birthday party. What a sweetheart. He must have traded his ability to guess the spellings of words for a +5 heart. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/133 "2010-09-23T01:06:30Z")
Nah, his illiteracy was for an additional +1 to hit. Unless, of course, he traded the same drawback multiple times, which I wouldn’t put past him. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/134 "2010-09-23T08:51:44Z")
Also worth noting that Kin appears to be a yuan-ti halfblood, and according to the 3.5E Monster Manual, she’d have a Challenge Rating of 5 (that is, a suitable challenge for a party of four 5th-level characters), vs. Minmax being a 2nd-level fighter. In a one-on-one fight, she’s gonna kick his ass. Given his intelligence, it’s unlikely Minmax is aware that she out-levels him. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/135 "2010-09-23T08:57:42Z")
Don’t certain fighter feats have a minimum intelligence requirement? Actually, at CR5 she’s a suitable boss encounter for a party of 4 2nd level characters. ---
**Author:** ![Spectralist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Spectralist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectralist)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/136 "2010-09-23T09:45:00Z")
It’s been my experience that CR is a terrible guide for how difficult an encounter will actually be and doubly so when you take into account a heavily minmaxed character. And even more so again in a 1v1 battle. > [@Quartz](#): > > Don’t certain fighter feats have a minimum intelligence requirement? I’m pretty sure it’s just combat expertise and the feats that require combat expertise. And that only requires 13 int. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/137 "2010-09-23T21:58:39Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m pretty sure it’s just combat expertise and the feats that require combat expertise. And that only requires 13 int. I wouldn’t call it “only” 13 int. Players’ perceptions tend to be skewed by over-generous PC stat generation schemes, but in the general population, 13 int is about one standard deviation above average. In other words, it’s right around the point where people start noticing “yeah, he’s a pretty smart guy” (though still well short of "Damn, that guy’s way smart!). ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/138 "2010-09-23T22:55:33Z")
Isn’t there an Int 6 minimum for a fighter anyway, or was that 1e? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/139 "2010-09-23T23:57:55Z")
In 3e, the only restriction is an int 3 minimum for all classes. In principle, it’s possible to have any of your other scores at 1 (after racial penalties, say), or to have a wizard with a 3 int (though I’m not sure why you would want to). ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075/140 "2010-09-24T10:46:51Z")
This strip took me completely by surprise (and Kin, too, judging from that fantastic ‘Buh-whuh?’ expression on her face in the last panel). I can’t wait to see what’s in that leaf-wrapped present! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/goblins-webcomic-discussion/531075.md?page=8)