# God, 30 Rock is good.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 15, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483 "2009-05-15T01:59:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/21 "2009-05-15T06:16:31Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I repressed that and thought the finale was about BJ’s Harley. Or thought it was a different episode.

It’s easy to do. The finale was very long and covered a lot of ground. But a few years ago, FX played endless MASH marathons, and so I watched endless hours, including the finale.

It’s funny that Rhett Miller was there–well, funny to me. I just started listening to Old 97’s in earnest (they’re really awesome!). Except..which one was he?

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**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/22 "2009-05-15T12:28:29Z")

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> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> It’s easy to do. The finale was very long and covered a lot of ground. But a few years ago, FX played endless MASH marathons, and so I watched endless hours, including the finale.

I just watched the movie once, when I was 12, and I still got it. Getting pop culture references is probably one of very few things in life I’m great at.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/23 "2009-05-15T14:52:15Z")

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> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> It’s funny that Rhett Miller was there–well, funny to me. I just started listening to Old 97’s in earnest (they’re really awesome!). Except..which one was he?

Rhett was on the top row all the way to the left. Youngish looking guy (though he’s nearly 40) w/ a mole. The girl right next to him, on his right, was Rachael Yamagata. I loved seeing them next to each other because they did an amazing duet together on Rhett’s last solo album called “Fireflies.” Here’s [a link to the video.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWA5gq2WQ34)

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/24 "2009-05-15T15:21:52Z")

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> [@LateComer](#):
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> “A grown man crying about a chicken and a baby? I thought this was a comedy show.” Brutal and awesome at the same time.

That took a moment before it sunk in on me. That was a killer line.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/25 "2009-05-15T15:41:13Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> escapees smother a crying baby rather than betray the majority. Which I know has happened.

Let’s face it – that’s a dealbreaker.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/26 "2009-05-15T15:43:57Z")

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I also didn’t recognize most of the singers because I’m an old fogey, but I was amused to find out that Clay Aiken is Kenneth’s cousin.

Elvis Costello is a hoot.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/27 "2009-05-15T15:51:24Z")

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> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> I laughed, but I wonder how many people had no idea what that was about. I had to explain it to my husband and my BF.

I had no idea.

“No…I’ll just remember it’s the opposite.”  
The montage of Tracy Jordon’s crying fits ending with his most recent one in front of Kenith was pretty funny.  
“No honey..Courney’s dead.”

“We called him ‘Mean Steve’ but his real name was Steve Da’Killer.”

“Elvis..or shall I say Declan McMannus, international art thief?”  
And apparently Kenneth is Clay Akins cousin!  
“Alooo!”  
“Please to meet!”

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/28 "2009-05-15T16:04:47Z")

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“Robot danger! Robot danger! OK, I need to work on that one.”

“If you had two dogs attacking you, you’d wish it was one!”

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/29 "2009-05-15T16:13:01Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> “No…I’ll just remember it’s the opposite.”

“No, he’s the one that needs the kidney.”  
“That’s not what my forms say!”

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/30 "2009-05-15T16:28:19Z")

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“In layman’s terms…what do you think it means?”

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/31 "2009-05-15T16:39:15Z")

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> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> I laughed, but I wonder how many people had no idea what that was about. I had to explain it to my husband and my BF.

OMG! I JUST GOT THAT!

Well played, Alan Alda!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/32 "2009-05-15T16:54:19Z")

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Dr. Spaceman is one of the best parts of the show - “I don’t know how to say this - die a bet is? Die abit ees?”

Apparently Jenna is fairly feisty - I liked her taking off her earrings as soon as they announced a special guest.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/33 "2009-05-15T16:59:33Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> shall I say Declan McMannus, international art thief?"

I beleive that’s Costello’s real name.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/34 "2009-05-15T17:00:09Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> OMG! I JUST GOT THAT!
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> Well played, Alan Alda!

🙂 I heard it but was half-listening and didn’t process it, and I’m not sure if I would have made the connection, despite having seen the MASH finale multiple times. I’ll be looking forward to the rerun.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/35 "2009-05-15T17:05:00Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> I beleive that’s Costello’s real name.
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> –Cliffy

[It is](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_costello).

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**Author:** ![Brandus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Brandus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brandus)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/36 "2009-05-15T17:15:44Z")

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Tracy is much more awesome than I ever realized.

Come on in, I’m just practicing sitting!

…  
Jack: Easy for you to say.  
Tracy: No it wasn’t, I struggled through that sentence!

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/37 "2009-05-15T17:26:18Z")

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Has it changed much since it started?

I really wanted to like this show (love Alec Baldwin, love comedy, trailers looked good) but I watched the first 2 episodes and I honestly thought it was probably the worst show I’ve ever seen in my life. My wife and I were both just agape at how bad it was. I expected it to get cancelled and ripped from the air in mid episode both times I watched. It was worse than _Cavemen_, _The Winner_, and _Sit Sown, Shut Up_ rolled into one and rewritten by the most annoying kid in your 5th grade class. My finger is usually pretty close to the pulse but the popularity of this show just completely baffles me. It made me want to punch my tv.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/38 "2009-05-15T17:29:13Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> [It is](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_costello).

That’s pretty funny. Nothing about being an international art thief though.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/39 "2009-05-15T17:40:23Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> “Please to meet!”

Who was “please to meet” guy?

Even Clay Aiken was funny. That _never_ happens. And he’s perfect as Kenneth’s cousin.

So which do you like better: _Kidney Now_ or [F\*cking Ben Affleck](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pFTAY7MF8)?

[QUOTE=Cisco]  
I really wanted to like this show (love Alec Baldwin, love comedy, trailers looked good) but I watched the first 2 episodes and I honestly thought it was probably the worst show I’ve ever seen in my life. … It made me want to punch my tv.  
[/QUOTE]

Ummm… that was 2 1/2 years ago. It’s a rare show that hits its stride in 2 episodes.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-30-rock-is-good/496483/40 "2009-05-15T17:44:13Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Who was “please to meet” guy?

That was Adam Levine, lead singer of Maroon 5.

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