# God and judgment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 9, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703 "2012-12-09T03:57:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/1 "2012-12-09T03:57:15Z")

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> [@Why did God create Lucifer Morningstar? (Satan)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-god-create-lucifer-morningstar-satan/641751/130):
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> He does not make mistakes we do. He gave us free will . But when he sees the evil it hurt him . He made a promise after the flood to never destroy human life again. That is why we are still alive . Not because he does not care but because of his promise. He said after the flood I set my bow in the sky to remember the promise to never destroy mankind in this manner again. He gives US ARE OWN FREE WILL. We make the mistakes .

> [@Why did God create Lucifer Morningstar? (Satan)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-god-create-lucifer-morningstar-satan/641751/131):
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> I think if he did not make that promise we would not be here.

> [@Why did God create Lucifer Morningstar? (Satan)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-god-create-lucifer-morningstar-satan/641751/132):
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> What people do not understand is he loves he gets angry he has hope he has been known to cry. He is not a big bully in the sky. HE said ,my plans are to prosper you not harm you. Also he said I knit you together in the womb. I knew you before you were born. You are my child and Iam your father. He never said that life will be easy.

Where did Noah keep all the fish?  
Which deck held the blue whale?

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/2 "2012-12-09T05:59:32Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Where did Noah keep all the fish?  
> Which deck held the blue whale?

The blue whale was on the 2nd floor of the ark. As for the fish well I think they stayed in the water outside of the ark . cause they did not like the blue whales…Yep 😕

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/3 "2012-12-09T06:43:20Z")

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We all are going to stand before God. All the words spoke for him or against him will be judged by him. I no when I stand before him I will not be asking him anything! Not one person in this forum will ask him any of these questions. Do you think because of your questions that no believer can answer will make God go away? He is still real face it . You will not out smart God with all your human logic. He will judge the good the bad and me.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/4 "2012-12-09T06:56:32Z")

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But keep this in mind… HE LOVES US !!! Just ask him to forgive your sin and THAT IS IT! Stop trying to run from God . He likes you he made you ! Why he made me is the REAL question??

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/5 "2012-12-09T08:14:23Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> But keep this in mind.. HE LOVES US !!! Just ask him to forgive your sin and THAT IS IT! Stop trying to run from God . He likes you he made you ! Why he made me is the REAL question??

How old are you?

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/6 "2012-12-09T10:25:15Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How old are you?

Why? Because I no God loves me I must be a child? 4 I will be 5 soon.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/7 "2012-12-09T20:06:24Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How old are you?

Quite young in more than one way, I would think.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/8 "2012-12-10T08:13:05Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Quite young in more than one way, I would think.

How many ways can a person be young? Did you ever ask yourself maybe she is not young and just stupid?

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/9 "2012-12-10T09:26:38Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> How many ways can a person be young?

Consider me curious too.

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> Did you ever ask yourself maybe she is not young and just stupid?

Well, not stupid but according to yourself, you do have a lot of how you you cope with your every day life invested in this Loving Father God story being true.

You depend heavily on it.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/10 "2012-12-10T11:42:18Z")

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> [@Why did God create Lucifer Morningstar? (Satan)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-god-create-lucifer-morningstar-satan/641751/140):
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> If we had free will there would be no punishment for our actions. The fact that God is said to have punished Adam and Eve for disobeying, shows they didn’t have free will,but had to do as God wanted.So the free will is just to do as God commands?

Yes you do have free will so did Adam and Eve. They did get punished but they had freedom of choice . If they did not they would not have choice to eat the fruit. They were told not to eat it and told that the would die. Then they were tempted and they had the free will to eat it . Even with the knowledge of punishment we still have free will. When they ate the fruit did God Kill them no. He asked them who told you that you were naked they said the snake and you no the rest . But what God did next was made them garments to cover them. He still loved them he told them there punishment and they lived happily ever after until they died. The punishment does not take away free will.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/11 "2012-12-10T11:57:07Z")

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> [@Latro](#):
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> Consider me curious too.
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> Well, not stupid but according to yourself, you do have a lot of how you you cope with your every day life invested in this Loving Father God story being true.
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> You depend heavily on it.

I just think God is real and I asked all the questions about why me why did God make me just to when I fail burn me in hell. I then read the bible and really seen how God deals with people. He hates sin not people He will forgive me if I ask. And I have to ask for forgivness so much. I heard him say my name .

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/12 "2012-12-10T12:25:58Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> I just think God is real and I asked all the questions about why me why did God make me just to when I fail burn me in hell..

Well, what did he say?

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/13 "2012-12-10T12:28:28Z")

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> [@Why did God create Lucifer Morningstar? (Satan)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-god-create-lucifer-morningstar-satan/641751/145):
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> I’m not entirely certain you are using free will in the same way as most people mean it. Free will means you have the ability to disobey; it does not mean you can avoid the repercussions.

Free will given to a human by a supreme being would be different. A supreme being would know ahead of time how a human would act) if that being had all knowledge), so in a way it is not free will. If I tell my child it can go to the movies, but if it goes(since I don’t want them to go) it is not free will. If a parent allows a young child to have a gun knowing it will harm itself or an other it doesnt’ allow the child to have it. And punishing the children as God was said to do in the Garden of Eden,then punsih all its offspring isn’t a just being.

One could say a person has the free will to do evil,but if it is truly free there would be no punishment,except if it was like jumping off a cliff. a good parent would not allow it,that is why there are laws, to curtail so called free will. I would do all in my powere to keep my child from harm and would expect an al lknowing ,all loving,all powerful being to know and do better than I would!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/14 "2012-12-10T12:48:22Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> I just think God is real and I asked all the questions about why me why did God make me just to when I fail burn me in hell. I then read the bible and really seen how God deals with people. He hates sin not people He will forgive me if I ask. And I have to ask for forgivness so much. I heard him say my name .

What did his voice sound like? Was it loud? Was it deep? Was there an accent?

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/15 "2012-12-10T13:13:37Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What did his voice sound like? Was it loud? Was it deep? Was there an accent?

I should not have posted that. Grow up please.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/16 "2012-12-10T13:15:59Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> I should not have posted that. Grow up please.

Did you hear the voice of God or not? If so, what did it sound like?  
BTW, you keep misspelling the word “know” as “no”.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/17 "2012-12-10T13:16:24Z")

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> [@Why did God create Lucifer Morningstar? (Satan)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-did-god-create-lucifer-morningstar-satan/641751/152):
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> I wonder if they were happy ever after, even when their son Cain killed their son Abel, that must have been a real kick…huh?

It was a JOKE!! We all no they did not live happily ever after. JOKE

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/18 "2012-12-10T13:18:51Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Did you hear the voice of God or not? If so, what did it sound like?  
> BTW, you keep misspelling the word “know” as “no”.

So what .no no no no know no WHO CARES!! DID YOU GET THE POINT OR NO??

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/19 "2012-12-10T13:29:24Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> So what .no no no no know no WHO CARES!! DID YOU GET THE POINT OR NO??

A mature adult who honestly wishes to communicate would care.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/20 "2012-12-10T13:38:29Z")

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What is wrong with you? I have only showed you my view of God. I have not judged or insulted you. Now because you can not find fault with someone telling you God loves you . Now you go to the level of a child by pointing out anything that will make you feel better about the fact you are scared of God. If you make fun of me and ignore what I said then you feel justifed. HE IS STILL REAL . You have not read the bible have you? You only keep what you read in links and posts on hand to make it by in a battle to prove God Is not real. Your only fooling yourself.

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