# God and judgment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 9, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703 "2012-12-09T03:57:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/21 "2012-12-10T13:41:47Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> A mature adult who honestly wishes to communicate would care.

So because of my mistake in spelling you did not understand what I said?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/22 "2012-12-10T13:44:18Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> What is wrong with you? I have only showed you my view of God. I have not judged or insulted you. Now because you can not find fault with someone telling you God loves you . Now you go to the level of a child by pointing out anything that will make you feel better about the fact you are scared of God. If you make fun of me and ignore what I said then you feel justifed. HE IS STILL REAL . You have not read the bible have you? You only keep what you read in links and posts on hand to make it by in a battle to prove God Is not real. Your only fooling yourself.

You have not been insulted-you have been asked questions about a claim that you made. Also, you seem to have a mistaken idea of what an atheist is.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/23 "2012-12-10T13:48:53Z")

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> [@Latro](#):
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> Well, what did he say?

Read the bible.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/24 "2012-12-10T13:52:39Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You have not been insulted-you have been asked questions about a claim that you made. Also, you seem to have a mistaken idea of what an atheist is.

You did insult me . And you know you did. And I have the same thought about your view of what I believe.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/25 "2012-12-10T14:15:25Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> You did insult me . And you know you did. And I have the same thought about your view of what I believe.

I know my veiw of God is not how most people who say they believe veiw him. I just want to show the God that I know . People that claim to be godly then judge other people are sinning . God is the judge not me not anyone. They point out sins in other people and never tell people there own sins. Just once I would like to see a paster say all sins he commited before each sermon. That would help people to feel understood instead of not good enough.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/26 "2012-12-10T15:07:04Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> I just want to show the God that I know .

And all we want to know is how you know.  
So we ask questions about what you claim.

Did God tell you to read the bible?  
If so how did he tell you?

You frequently jump in, all stary-eyed, how this god of yours really listens to prayer. Oh, if we would only just listen we could surely hear him.

So your claim is that you regularly communicate with him, directly.  
As this claim is pretty far out, we would just like to know how this god communicates back to you.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/27 "2012-12-10T23:10:41Z")

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> [@Latro](#):
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> And all we want to know is how you know.  
> So we ask questions about what you claim.
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> Did God tell you to read the bible?  
> If so how did he tell you?
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> You frequently jump in, all stary-eyed, how this god of yours really listens to prayer. Oh, if we would only just listen we could surely hear him.
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> So your claim is that you regularly communicate with him, directly.  
> As this claim is pretty far out, we would just like to know how this god communicates back to you.

HE WILL TALK TO YOU !!! And If you truly want to know how he talks to NOT JUST ME!!! YOU TOO!!! You send privite message because I will not have a bunch of people making a joke out of him and how he talks to me.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/28 "2012-12-10T23:19:18Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> HE WILL TALK TO YOU !!! And If you truly want to know how he talks to NOT JUST ME!!! YOU TOO!!! You send privite message because I will not have a bunch of people making a joke out of him and how he talks to me.

What does he sound like?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/29 "2012-12-10T23:26:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What does he sound like?

You’ve made your point here. Whether **missyzilly** believes she heard an actual voice or not, there is little to be gained by asking the question again and again. Let’s leave this part of the discussion behind - that includes **missyzilly** ’s grammar and spelling as well. And **missyzilly** , calm down and don’t tell other posters to grow up.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/30 "2012-12-10T23:54:38Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What does he sound like?

A beaver.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/31 "2012-12-11T00:00:34Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> A beaver.

What do you have to say to those that have tried to speak to God over and over and over again, and yet have received no answer? A serious answer would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/32 "2012-12-11T05:20:56Z")

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Okay. You guys are all very smart and have really good questions. And also you all are in so much pain. I want you to think of what you NEED not want NEED. I do not want to know what you need just the number of NEEDS you have. If you are in need of a home post 1. If you are need of five things post 5. You get the point . I will prove God loves you

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/33 "2012-12-11T07:13:41Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> Okay. You guys are all very smart and have really good questions. And also you all are in so much pain. I want you to think of what you NEED not want NEED. I do not want to know what you need just the number of NEEDS you have. If you are in need of a home post 1. If you are need of five things post 5. You get the point . I will prove God loves you

I need you to give us straight answers to questions asked of you instead of relying on nonsense answers answers and diversionary tactics like this one. You say we have good questions, then you jump sideways into some nonsense about how you somehow know that we are in such pain. This isn’t a thread about amateur psychotherapy, and I’m not going to play your games.

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/34 "2012-12-11T09:18:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I need you to give us straight answers to questions asked of you instead of relying on nonsense answers answers and diversionary tactics like this one. You say we have good questions, then you jump sideways into some nonsense about how you somehow know that we are in such pain. This isn’t a thread about amateur psychotherapy, and I’m not going to play your games.

Okay this is what he said to me about you. You are the only one that he is after on this forum . He sent me after you. I did not know that untill I tried to cuss you out and God said do not do that. Now listen because im so bored.God wants you to here this . [Http://youtu.be/ggGwDryrc2k](Http://youtu.be/ggGwDryrc2k)

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**Author:** ![missyzilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9a28c/32.png) [@missyzilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missyzilly)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/35 "2012-12-11T09:27:44Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> Okay this is what he said to me about you. You are the only one that he is after on this forum . He sent me after you. I did not know that untill I tried to cuss you out and God said do not do that. Now listen because im so bored.God wants you to here this . [Http://youtu.be/ggGwDryrc2k](Http://youtu.be/ggGwDryrc2k)

Go to you tube type in Gods love letter. And God said you would not like the music so just read it ok. From what God is telling me you would find the music to be stupid. So ignore it read it .

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/36 "2012-12-11T11:44:54Z")

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This is heartbreakingly sad. I don’t like the idea of someone getting so worked up that…issues are triggered in real life. Is there a way to wrap this up that isn’t dishonest or indulgent? If so, please spare a person this turmoil.

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/37 "2012-12-11T12:45:32Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> Read the bible.

Do you know that most Atheists have read the Bible more than many Christians and that is why they no longer believe?

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/38 "2012-12-11T13:04:03Z")

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> [@missyzilly](#):
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> Read the bible.

> [@monavis](#):
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> Do you know that most Atheists have read the Bible more than many Christians and that is why they no longer believe?

I interpreted that one as that her god had commanded _her_ to read the bible.  
You think she was telling _me_ to read the bible?

If so then your comment indeed applies to me. Furthermore I have read _about_ the bible.  
Which is far, far more enlightning than reading that bundling of scriblings itself.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/39 "2012-12-11T15:13:06Z")

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I’ve split this thread off [from this one.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=673101) The discussion is all over the place, but I added a few quotes from **missyzilly** to **Czarcasm** ’s posts to clarify the issues somewhat.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-and-judgment/643703/40 "2012-12-11T15:19:04Z")

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> [@Latro](#):
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> I interpreted that one as that her god had commanded _her_ to read the bible.  
> You think she was telling _me_ to read the bible?

“Drink more Ovaltine”.

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