# God Bless Ronald Wilson Reagan ... **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 6, 2004, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886 "2004-06-06T00:38:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/21 "2004-06-06T01:36:13Z")
> [@GLWasteful](#): > > No, **Leaper**. There is nothing resembling debate about this trainwreck. > > **Sally** just let her ideology use her for a mouthpiece. Happens to all of us at times. You might be right, “A dog always smells its own _waste_ first” … :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/22 "2004-06-06T01:40:22Z")
Okay, I’m getting mighty confused now. I’d like to ask the OP: which response so far comes closest to the debate that you were hoping to inspire? Please note that so far, most of the posts have been wondering what exactly you wanted to debate. And you haven’t answered a previous question: is it your belief that your OP constituted a debate just because the quoted material had the word “debate” in it? One last attempt to find a debate: perhaps she was asking whether Kerry’s characterization of Reagan was correct? (The title would tend to discount this, but it’s a possibility.) If so, we already have a thread for that, so this one is redundant. ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/23 "2004-06-06T01:44:24Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Okay, I’m getting mighty confused now. > > I’d like to ask the OP: which response so far comes closest to the debate that you were hoping to inspire? Please note that so far, most of the posts have been wondering what exactly you wanted to debate. And you haven’t answered a previous question: is it your belief that your OP constituted a debate just because the quoted material had the word “debate” in it? > > One last attempt to find a debate: perhaps she was asking whether Kerry’s characterization of Reagan was correct? (The title would tend to discount this, but it’s a possibility.) If so, we already have a thread for that, so this one is redundant. No debate, then, if everyone agrees with what JFK said about RWR, unless he might be lying? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/24 "2004-06-06T01:44:33Z")
Hang in there, Sally. I see you’re new to the boards (I’m not that old to them myself) but there probably would have been a better forum for this thread. Having said that though, and having read your posts in the pit, let me say hang in there…don’t let the [expletives deleted] get to ya. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/25 "2004-06-06T01:45:41Z")
> [@SallyStar](#): > > No debate, then, if everyone agrees with what JFK said about RWR, unless he might be lying? 😕 I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you’re saying/asking. Could you clarify? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/26 "2004-06-06T01:46:09Z")
I think this counts as ‘witnessing’, and is therefore appropriate in this forum. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/27 "2004-06-06T01:50:16Z")
> [@SallyStar](#): > > You might be right, “A dog always smells its own _waste_ first” … :rolleyes: Ooooh! She zings me with my own SN. Damnation! Whatever shall I do? Perhaps I’ll just expire in a coughing jag after hitting a high C. Nah, fuck that. So, **SallyStar** , are you ever gonna get around to letting everyone else in on the secret debate that you oh so desperately hoped to inspire? Or are you gonna continue to vainly try to piss me off? And I see on preview that you’ve come back. No, I think that Kerry is giving it the ol’ platitudinous shot and doesn’t necessarily mean all that he says. As you may have noticed, he’s a politician. They excel at saying things that they don’t necessarily mean. Or did you really believe that Saddam was an immediate threat to the US? ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/28 "2004-06-06T01:52:45Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Hang in there, Sally. I see you’re new to the boards (I’m not that old to them myself) but there probably would have been a better forum for this thread. Having said that though, and having read your posts in the pit, let me say hang in there…don’t let the [expletives deleted] get to ya. Do you know **Starving Artist** , you are the first one who has been even slightly considerate to me here. Maybe I should have noticed you also. ☹ I’m still thinking of signing up, but I don’t know if I will be ever part of one of the clique’s or tag team’s here. Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/29 "2004-06-06T01:59:10Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I think this counts as ‘witnessing’, and is therefore appropriate in this forum. Yep. I _like_ this one. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/30 "2004-06-06T02:03:39Z")
There Are no cliques here. Nor clicks. Give us something to debate and you will find many intelligent thoughtful responses. ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/31 "2004-06-06T02:04:55Z")
> [@GLWasteful](#): > > Or did you really believe that Saddam was an immediate threat to the US? No, no more than Hitler in Europe after the Japs attacked Pearl Harbour … (don’t know what the hell this is about!) … :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/32 "2004-06-06T02:09:43Z")
> [@SallyStar](#): > > No, no more than Hitler in Europe after the Japs attacked Pearl Harbour … (don’t know what the hell this is about!) … :rolleyes: You are actually equating Saddm with Germany and Japan??? Now that is funny. It is a joke right? Surely you aren’t that misinformed. ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/33 "2004-06-06T02:12:53Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > You are actually equating Saddm with Germany and Japan??? > > Now that is funny. > > It is a joke right? > > Surely you aren’t that misinformed. Uh, was the war in Europe a preemptive war and/or a _War of Choice_? (still don’t know what this has to do with this thread??) … ---
**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/34 "2004-06-06T02:20:28Z")
**SallyStar** : > [@](#): > > No, no more than Hitler in Europe after the Japs attacked Pearl Harbour … (don’t know what the hell this is about!) … inre my pissy little aside: > [@](#): > > Or did you really believe that Saddam was an immediate threat to the US? It’s called reading comprehension. Such a simple thing really. Well, for most people anyway. Let us recap: You wondered if Kerry might be lying. I in turn opined that I didn’t think that he was as sincere as he might be when he is defending himself against those who try to claim that he’s stepping out on his Missus. Then I pointed out that speaking about that which you may not care for while sounding truly sorrowful is something that comes remarkably easy to those of the political class. Further, by way of illustration, I wondered if you actually _believed_ the utter nonsense that issued forth from Bush _fils_ when he claimed that Saddam Hussein was so bad that he must be stopped immediately! See, pretty simple if you just follow along. Unless you need someone to help you with the big words. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/35 "2004-06-06T02:22:53Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > You are actually equating Saddm with Germany and Japan??? > > Now that is funny. > > It is a joke right? > > Surely you aren’t that misinformed. Hey, if various mouth-breathing knuckle draggers will equate the Bush administration with Nazi Germany, than certainly Saddam is fair game. ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/36 "2004-06-06T02:27:58Z")
> [@GLWasteful](#): > > Further, by way of illustration, I wondered if you actually _believed_ the utter nonsense that issued forth from Bush _fils_ when he claimed that Saddam Hussein was so bad that he must be stopped immediately! > > See, pretty simple if you just follow along. Unless you need someone to help you with the big words. I know _microscopic thermodynamics_, but you never answered if Hitler in Europe had to be stopped immediately after Pearl Harbor? ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/37 "2004-06-06T02:37:34Z")
Big talk. Bet you don’t know about BIG thermodynamics! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/38 "2004-06-06T02:38:25Z")
> [@SallyStar](#): > > I know _microscopic thermodynamics_, but you never answered if Hitler in Europe had to be stopped immediately after Pearl Harbor? Hitler declared war on the US on Dec. 11, 1941. So there was no preemption. ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/39 "2004-06-06T02:39:33Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Big talk. > Bet you don’t know about BIG thermodynamics! 😛 LMAO … no smilie for that … ---
**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886/40 "2004-06-06T02:42:20Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Hitler declared war on the US on Dec. 11, 1941. So there was no preemption. Oh, c’mon, when did OBL declare war on us and what did we do? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-bless-ronald-wilson-reagan/248886.md?page=3)