# God certainly has a mean sense of humor **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449 "2016-11-02T16:11:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/1 "2016-11-02T16:11:17Z")
And the Lord said, “Every four years the voters of the United States of America will choose the most powerful person on the planet.” Here are the choices God gave us for 2016: In one corner, Donald Trump > [@](#): > > Researchers at NBC News have catalogued Trump’s positions on major issues since the start of the campaign. They found, as of early October: > 18 different positions on immigration reform > 15 different positions on banning Muslims > 9 different positions on how to defeat ISIS > 8 different positions on raising the minimum wage > 7 different tax plans and > 8 different strategies for dealing with the national debt. Source: [http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/10/daily-news-editorial-bury-trump-in-landslide/](http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/10/daily-news-editorial-bury-trump-in-landslide/) And in the other corner, Hillary Clinton: > [@](#): > > …her one concrete achievement [as a United States Senator} was getting a courthouse renamed for Thurgood Marshall. > > … her most significant accomplishment [as Secretary of State] is helping negotiate the end of a week-long skirmish between Israel and Hamas. Source: > **[Hillary’s Senate Accomplishment: One Bill Enacted into Law, to Name a Federal...](https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/hillarys-senate-record-bill-renaming-nyc-building-her-single-success/)** > > Hillary Cinton’s record of succes over her 8 years in the Senate: one bill enacted into law, to rename a courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. > **[Hillary Clinton’s Greatest ‘Accomplishments,’ Annotated | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/hillary-clinton-accomplishments-not-much/)** > > Behold the greatness that is Hillary Clinton, in her campaign’s own words – with a few modest annotations following. I know we’re not perfect, God, but what specifically did we do to deserve a choice like this? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/2 "2016-11-02T16:21:23Z")
I’m not familiar with the _National Review_ but my spider-sense starts tingling when they declare that Hillary isn’t fighting for “all children” by being pro-choice. Besides, the fault lies not in your stars, but in yourselves, so don’t lay this one on God. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/3 "2016-11-02T16:21:41Z")
The President is an administrator. Hillary will do a fine job. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/4 "2016-11-02T16:37:01Z")
> [@](#): > > …her one concrete achievement… > … her most significant accomplishment… What kind of correlation has there been in the past between a candidate’s pre-presidential achievements/accomplishments and how effective they were as POTUS? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/5 "2016-11-02T16:38:33Z")
God has nothing to do with this. We Humans made this happen. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/6 "2016-11-02T16:41:17Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > God has nothing to do with this. We Humans made this happen. If it were a god - it would be loki. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/7 "2016-11-02T16:44:51Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > What kind of correlation has there been in the past between a candidate’s pre-presidential achievements/accomplishments and how effective they were as POTUS? I’m kind of curious why Trump’s achievements aren’t being used for comparison. Since he has no public service in his background at all, I suppose you’d have to compare his financial success against other real-estate developers in the New York area through the 1980s and 90s. Since he didn’t win an Emmy, should we consider the presidential potential of the people that _did_ that year? How does “President Jerry Bruckheimer” grab you? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/8 "2016-11-02T17:04:51Z")
The National Review is a conservative mouthpiece. So why is this an illustration of Gods trickery? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/9 "2016-11-02T17:32:13Z")
You’ve opened my eyes! Trump and Clinton are JUST THE SAME! Guess I’ll stay home on Election Day and eat nachos. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/10 "2016-11-02T17:49:46Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Besides, the fault lies not in your stars, but in yourselves, so don’t lay this one on God. What would God need with a Trump? A door stopper? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/11 "2016-11-02T20:47:54Z")
The hair would make him a pretty good toilet bowl cleaner. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/12 "2016-11-02T20:52:33Z")
Or a weather vane, so long as he’s not wearing that ball cap. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/13 "2016-11-02T21:00:26Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > And in the other corner, Hillary Clinton: > > > [@](#): > > > > …her one concrete achievement [as a United States Senator} was getting a courthouse renamed for Thurgood Marshall. > > > > … her most significant accomplishment [as Secretary of State] is helping negotiate the end of a week-long skirmish between Israel and Hamas. > > Source: > [Hillary’s Senate Record: Bill Renaming NYC Building Her Single Success | National Review](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438430/hillarys-senate-record-bill-renaming-nyc-building-her-single-success) > [http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437949/hillary-clinton-accomplishments-not-much](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437949/hillary-clinton-accomplishments-not-much) Before you accept the _National Review_’s take, you should check out this article by a columnist at HuffPost, to get a viewpoint from the other side of the media spectrum: [I Wrote That I Despised Hillary Clinton. Today, I Want To Publicly Take It Back](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/isaac-saul/i-wrote-that-i-despised-hillary-clinton-i-take-it-back_b_12220124.html): > [@](#): > > Just months before 9/11, Hillary Clinton became a U.S. senator in New York. She served for eight years in the city and was a key architect of the $21 billion federal aid bill that helped rebuild the city after her term started with the worst tragedy New York had ever seen. But perhaps what she is most remembered for is fighting for the health bill that served first responders in the first 48 hours after the attack. While Donald Trump bragged about his building now being the tallest in New York City, Clinton was fighting the Environmental Protection Agency to admit the air wasn’t safe to breathe. That’s why Clinton has the support of so many 9/11 first responders and survivors: they remember her work as a senator of New York. > … > Democrats had essentially given up on health care reform, until First Lady Clinton helped the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). She’s largely credited with getting the bill into law, and it became the largest expansion of taxpayer-funded health insurance in three decades. Today, the bill has resounding bi-partisan support, and 8.4 million children — many of them low-income — are enrolled in its program. > … > Throughout her time in public service, Hillary Clinton has negotiated ceasefires in Israel, put the Lilly Ledbetter Pay Equity Act into law, authored the Pediatric Research Equity Act (which helped re-label drugs to keep millions of children safe), and she got the EU, Russia, China and other world powers to participate in the crippling sanctions on Iran that forced the country to negotiate its nuclear plan out of existence. > > And throughout all that time, Clinton has traveled the world advocating a better life for women in places where that concept wasn’t even on the radar. She’s pushed for paternity leave here in the United States, and became a symbol of women’s rights and women’s progress everywhere. Looking at Secretary Clinton and reading about her accomplishments, it’s tough to think that it was just 100 years ago the U.S. elected the first woman to Congress. That 100 years later, she’s our first female candidate for president to win a primary. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/14 "2016-11-02T21:06:38Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > And in the other corner, Hillary Clinton: … is a good politician and has many accomplishments to her name, despite what the right-wing noise machine has been whining about for the past couple decades. The fact you honestly think a former Senator and Secretary of State has no accomplishments to her name is evidence of the massive, inexorable decay the right wing has undergone in this country, and how far the GOP has to go in order to be taken seriously again. Your false equivalence is idiotic. There’s no other term for it. Happily, nobody here buys it except the people who are irrationally biased against Clinton to begin with, as you obviously are. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/15 "2016-11-02T21:30:46Z")
The Elections forum is for serious (or even light hearted) discussions of the election, not for more whiny rants that include misinformation. Moved to The BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/16 "2016-11-02T22:07:55Z")
\*Oh great, great slumbering nation Awake! Set yourself free Oh! Smell the comforting bacon, taste the bromide tea And give a little chirrup as I ladle on the syrup Promises are cheap Let me bear your crosses, make me boss of bosses Then you go back to sleep (Ha ha ha) No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in\* - Bonzo Dog Band ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/17 "2016-11-02T23:02:28Z")
**God certainly has a mean sense of humor** OP surely doesn’t want to start any blasphemous rumours? ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/18 "2016-11-02T23:21:29Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > You’ve opened my eyes! Trump and Clinton are JUST THE SAME! Guess I’ll stay home on Election Day and eat nachos. I am not a fan of either candidate but I still voted Hillary , the KKK are for Trump and not Hillary so the two are NOT just the same ! ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/19 "2016-11-02T23:48:48Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m not familiar with the _National Review_ but my spider-sense starts tingling when they declare that Hillary isn’t fighting for “all children” by being pro-choice. > > Besides, the fault lies not in your stars, but in yourselves, so don’t lay this one on God. Look, if all I wanted was a protector of Earth and friend to all children, I’d vote for Gamera. And now that I’ve thought of it, I’m sad there isn’t enough time to make a Gamera 2016 yard sign. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-certainly-has-a-mean-sense-of-humor/770449/20 "2016-11-03T00:38:04Z")
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