# God damn it, Democrats! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 28, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damn-it-democrats/758592 "2016-06-28T05:08:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damn-it-democrats/758592/81 "2016-07-03T23:17:46Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > But, will it transform into action? > Decades of DNC apathy make me very doubtful of that. Maybe you need to turn off the TV and read some quality journalism. Start at [Vox.com](http://Vox.com): [Barack Obama is officially one of the most consequential presidents in American history](http://www.vox.com/2015/6/26/8849925/obama-obamacare-history-presidents). It’s not a close call. Securing health care reform, a task that had defeated Presidents since before the First World War. Avoiding GWBush style foreign clusterfucks like Iraq. Financial reform. Electric grid reform for addressing global warming. Doing all of this in the face of the most viciously partisan opposition in US history. There’s been a lot of action. You’ve just had your head up your butt, like most Trump supporters, _de facto_ and otherwise. It’s not enough to defeat Trump this fall. He must be crushed. Nativism is a virus. [Don’t be a sucker](http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/06/trump-time-capsule-31-dont-be-a-sucker/489662/). [Elie Wiesel](http://www.bradford-delong.com/2016/07/live-from-gehenna-hoisted-from-thirty-years-ago.html): [INDENT][INDENT] I remember: it happened yesterday or eternities ago. A young Jewish boy discovered the kingdom of night. I remember his bewilderment, I remember his anguish. It all happened so fast. The ghetto. The deportation. The sealed cattle car. The fiery altar upon which the history of our people and the future of mankind were meant to be sacrificed. I remember: he asked his father: ‘Can this be true?’ This is the twentieth century, not the Middle Ages. Who would allow such crimes to be committed? How could the world remain silent?’ ``` And now the boy is turning to me: 'Tell me,' he asks. 'What have you done with my future? What have you done with your life?' And I tell him that I have tried. That I have tried to keep memory alive, that I have tried to fight those who would forget. Because if we forget, we are guilty, we are accomplices. And then I explained to him how naive we were, that the world did know and remain silent. And that is why I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men or women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must--at that moment--become the center of the universe. [/INDENT][/INDENT] ``` ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damn-it-democrats/758592/82 "2016-07-04T05:06:01Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Progressives have to learn to accept the reality that moderates exist. We didn’t steal your party; it doesn’t belong to you. > > Progressives need to make a choice. Do you want to work with moderates, be part of a party in power, and get some of what you want? Or do you want to go off on your own and get nothing? You’re funny. Where was the Democratic Party before that noted socialist Franklin Delano Roosevelt? The “moderates” don’t win Congressional majorities. _Populists_ did, but once you chose Wall Street and free trade, it’s been all over but the slow dying. Shame, really. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damn-it-democrats/758592.md?page=4)