# God-Damned mother-effing coward Spaniards. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 15, 2004, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324 "2004-03-15T00:16:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/381 "2004-03-18T00:55:24Z")
> [@PharmBoy](#): > > Giving the bully what he wants DOES NOT WORK. Neither does _never_ acting in a fashion that would appear to give the terrorist a little ground, even if it’s in our benefit. > [@](#): > > The only thing terrorists understand is strength. However it takes far more then strength alone to eliminate the terrorist threat. > [@](#): > > I’m so fucking sick of you Europeans telling us how we ought to be defending ourselves, and how we should always ask your opinion before we do anything. And I’m sure they’re sick of the same. > [@](#): > > Face it, you Spanish, French, Germans are are groveling, spittle-licking pussies. heh. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/382 "2004-03-18T01:32:26Z")
> [@PharmBoy](#): > > Yes, because appeasement works so well with terrorist monsters. Jesus, don,t you young punks ever read any history. Giving the bully what he wants DOES NOT WORK. The only thing terrorists understand is strength. > > I’m so fucking sick of you Europeans telling us how we ought to be defending ourselves, and how we should always ask your opinion before we do anything. Face it, you Spanish, French, Germans are are groveling, spittle-licking pussies. I must have missed the part of the election in Spain which was about telling America how to defend itself. Rather, I understood Spain had decided it no longer wanted to have its own Spanish troops in Iraq under American command. In other words, until now it was Spanish troops serving American interests and now Spain has said it will withdraw its troops if the transfer of authority does not take place at the end of June as promised by the USA. I never heard the Spanish government was now demanding that American troops be placed under Spanish command. I hope I am also allowed to point out that invading Iraq can not be considered “defending yourself” and that trying to topple Chavez of Venezuela (as much as I dislike him) cannot be considered “defending yourself” but rather acts of aggression which, I hope, we are allowed to criticise. The USA can choose to “defend” itself as it wishes but it seems to me it is making more enemies and losing support which is sort of the opposite of what it wants. Good luck if it thinks it can beat the rest of the world into submission when it cannot even beat Iraq or [Venezuela](http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=4590314) or Cuba into submission. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/383 "2004-03-18T01:47:05Z")
> [@PharmBoy](#): > > I’m so fucking sick of you Europeans telling us how we ought to be defending ourselves, and how we should always ask your opinion before we do anything. Face it, you Spanish, French, Germans are are groveling, spittle-licking pussies. Please tell me what you think of the Dutch. A whole nation is shaking nervously in anticipation. Tell us, oh great **PharmBoy** … give us our destiny. Are we to be grovelers? Will we lick spittle? Or shall we, oh joy, be pussies?? BTW, my unsollicited, arrogant, European advise on how the US should defend itself:[ul][_]Militarily, no nation on earth poses a direct threat to the US. Relax.[_]You can’t arm against terrorism. You combat terrorism by eliminating the sources on which it feeds.[/ul]You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/384 "2004-03-18T02:41:09Z")
> [@PharmBoy](#): > > Face it, you Spanish, French, Germans are are groveling, spittle-licking pussies. You are just jealous that we have the best pussies to lick. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/385 "2004-03-18T03:01:18Z")
Holy shit! The [faker terrorists](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040317/ap_on_re_eu/egypt_spain_al_qaida_3) have capitulated to the will of Spain! > [@](#): > > (AP) - The Islamic militant group [the Brigade of Abu Hafs al-Masri] that claimed responsibility for last week’s Madrid train bombings has called a truce with Spain to give the new government time to withdraw troops from Iraq… > > […] > > But the United States believes the group, which takes its name in memory of al-Qaida’s fallen No. 3, lacks credibility and its ties to al-Qaida are tenuous. In the past, the group has made claims about various events to which it was not connected — such as blackouts last year in the United States, Canada and London. All hyperbole aside, it sounds pretty encouraging. For one thing, the people of Spain have nakedly swum in the stentorian tide that _is_ Democracy, and an entire generation of Americans was watching. You know, regardless of your ideology, there’s a lesson in that. For the other, the minute the Brigade delivered a statement to the Spanish Press, the bombing investigation was given a huge leg up. So they’re not affiliated with al Qaeda, that’s a shame. I do, however, believe there will be some pretty significant arrests out of this. ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/386 "2004-03-18T03:13:44Z")
> [@sailor](#): > > You are just jealous that we have the best pussies to lick. I hope you meant that collectively about Spaniards or Europeans, because otherwise I’m really going to have to revise my mental image of you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/387 "2004-03-18T03:20:57Z")
I think friend **Sailor** is speaking in the sense of collective possession, like we in MN have the West. Hem.'s largest concentration of leggy Nordic blondes. I don’t think **Sailor** is making any direct reference to his/her own gender, nor meaning to imply that he/she has more than one personal generative orifice. ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/388 "2004-03-18T03:27:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I think friend **Sailor** is speaking in the sense of collective possession, like we in MN have the West. Hem.'s largest concentration of leggy Nordic blondes. I don’t think **Sailor** is making any direct reference to his/her own gender, nor meaning to imply that he/she has more than one personal generative orifice. Oh, I know; thus the wink. It was a joke, which someone seems to have missed in spite of the wink. Since at least one person has missed my point, I will refrain from any further commentary on what (or whom) **sailor** might like to possess. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/389 "2004-03-18T03:29:44Z")
So why are Pubbies so scared? It’s not outsourcing, view the rush to subcontract their thinking to Rupert Murdoch. No, my guess is that it’s the future pre-figured. The recently put together global right-wing narrative is unravelling. Real fast it’s running dead into brute facts. Coming your way soon. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/390 "2004-03-18T03:42:14Z")
> [@sailor](#): > > I must have missed the part of the election in Spain which was about telling America how to defend itself. See, **PharmBoy** , this is how things are done in this forum. You said nowhere that the election in Spain was about telling America how to defend itself. You stated your opinion about not liking Europeans telling the U.S. how to defend itself (Not to be putting words in your mouth but I imagine you mean somethin along the line getting their permission, trying sanction after sanction after sanction, begging and pleading, etc. etc.). But the response you get is a sarcastic insinuation that you said something entirely different than what you actually said, in the hope of getting you bogged down in defending yourself and diluting your actual point. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/391 "2004-03-18T03:43:17Z")
[http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4591197](http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4591197) OK, so in the first part of this article, there does appear to be a bit of support for ‘AQ takes it as appeasment’: > [@](#): > > A group claiming to have links with al Qaeda said on Wednesday it was calling a truce in its Spanish operations to see if the new Madrid government would withdraw its troops from Iraq, a pan-Arab newspaper said. But later on: > [@](#): > > “Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization.” > > “Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected.” There you go, people, you have your orders! In order to make sure you don’t do something the terrorists want, don’t vote for Bush! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/392 "2004-03-18T03:50:05Z")
For all the Desi Arnaz fans out there, I meant to type “something,” not “somethin.” (And before anyone tries to make themselves look superior by accusing me of anti-Hispanic prejudice, Arnaz himself used this as a way of getting laughs on his show, so if you want to go tilting at any windmills tonight go find something else.) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/393 "2004-03-18T03:51:22Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > There you go, people, you have your orders! In order to make sure you don’t do something the terrorists want, don’t vote for Bush! Nice try. Ever hear of reverse psychology? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/394 "2004-03-18T03:52:31Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Nice try. Ever hear of reverse psychology? That would be too obvious. I think they were using reverse-reverse psychology! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/395 "2004-03-18T03:57:56Z")
> [@sevastopol](#): > > So why are Pubbies so scared? > > It’s not outsourcing, view the rush to subcontract their thinking to Rupert Murdoch. > > No, my guess is that it’s the future pre-figured. The recently put together global right-wing narrative is unravelling. Real fast it’s running dead into brute facts. > > Coming your way soon. \ \ \ \ \ Very nicely said. I regretfully disagree. You want to lay odds? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/396 "2004-03-18T03:59:36Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Nice try. Ever hear of reverse psychology? Perhaps they were using that in Spain? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/397 "2004-03-18T04:08:12Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Perhaps they were using that in Spain? :rolleyes: Nope. Admittedly, quite a bit of intelligence is required to tell when it is and when it isn’t, but I appreciate that you were willing to try. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/398 "2004-03-18T04:19:16Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Nope. Admittedly, quite a bit of intelligence is required to tell when it is and when it isn’t, but I appreciate that you were willing to try. 😃 Pathetic dodge. The point is they never made their intentions clear, so reverse or reverse reverse, etc is a moot point. ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/399 "2004-03-18T04:31:01Z")
Starving Artist continues to be WRONG but at least he has the balls to defend his position. Where has the “God-Damned mother-effing” OP gone? Oh maybe he is a pussy and has capitulated in the face of might. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324/400 "2004-03-18T04:35:13Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > Starving Artist continues to be WRONG but at least he has the balls to defend his position. Where has the “God-Damned mother-effing” OP gone? > > Oh maybe he is a pussy and has capitulated in the face of might. 😃 Probably trying to get some sleep. He’s been here for what seems like most of the last three days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damned-mother-effing-coward-spaniards/234324.md?page=21)