# God disproven ONCE AND FOR ALL

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 22, 2000, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048 "2000-04-22T00:17:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/1 "2000-04-22T00:17:00Z")

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A bit of humor to lighten up your day, prompted by ghoti’s posting of Anselm’s Ontological Argument on LBMB:

The ontological argument for the _non_existence of God is the best argument for the nonexistence of God which could possibly exist- one _cannot even imagine_ a better argument for blowing away theism. And, of course, an argument which exists is better than one that does not exist- no one is going to be convinced by a nonexistent argument! So clearly the ultimate proof of the nonexistence of God must exist. We don’t know the details of the argument, but we know that it’s out there, and that it’s impossible to refute it, and that, gentle readers, all one needs in order to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that God does not exist.

-Ben

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/2 "2000-04-22T15:32:00Z")

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Proof that God does not exist.

Let n = 1. This is the unit, indivisible. If this is all there is, there can be nothing else; hence, there can be no God.

Now suppose God does not exist for n = N, some positive integer. Then consider the case N+1, where one unit has been added to N. If this one thing is not God, then God does not exist for N+1, and the proof is done. But if this one thing IS God, then God would be limited by the constricting factor N, where He doesn’t exist. But God being limited is a contradiction, so there is no God for N+1.

Hence, we have proved the non-existence of God by mathematical induction.

Can I have another Bloody Mary, please?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2000, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/3 "2000-04-23T05:22:00Z")

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“I must have faith,” says God, “For without faith I am nothing.”

“But,” says Man, “The Babel Fish is a dead giveaway that You do exist. One doesn’t believe in something by faith if one has hard evidence that it exists, so therefore, by Your own logic, You don’t. Q.E.D.”

“Oh,” says God, “I hadn’t thought of that,” and disappears in a puff of logic."

“Well, that was easy,” says Man, who goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra-striped pedestrian crossing.

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**Author:** ![2sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e47774/32.png) [@2sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2sense)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2000, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/4 "2000-04-23T05:45:00Z")

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**tracer** :

Hey! This is a Douglas Adams quote. I learned this from OgreFade/The Urge.

And people thought he had nothing to contribute.

:: Carefully ignoring the fact that The Smirk was as annoying as hell. ::

Peace

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**Author:** ![Cosmin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@Cosmin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cosmin)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/5 "2000-04-22T19:09:00Z")

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God is love  
Love is blind  
Ray Charles is blind  
Therefore, Ray Charles is God

🙂

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“Two hands working do more than a thousand clasped in prayer”

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2000, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/6 "2000-04-22T19:13:00Z")

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Wait, does this mean Ray Charles doesn’t exist? Jeez, I’ve been fooled all this time…

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**Author:** ![coosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@coosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coosa)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2000, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/7 "2000-04-23T01:15:00Z")

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Hey! **Cosmin** stole my sig line! No fair!

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God is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Therefore, Ray Charles is God.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2000, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/8 "2000-04-23T01:50:00Z")

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Pot is outlawed. Pot is part of nature. Nature was created by God. So are we outlawing God?

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“The bitch, oh the bitch, the bitch is back…I’m a bitch cuz I’m better then you, it’s the way that I move  
The things that I do…” Elton John  
“People try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend…” The Moody Blues  
“To start, press any key. Where’s the any key?” Homer Simpson.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2000, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-disproven-once-and-for-all/18048/9 "2000-04-23T02:13:00Z")

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Pot is part of nature. Nature was created by God. Therefore, God wants us to get high.  
Or, as someone once purposefully misquoted Yoda: “Fear leads to stress. Stress leads to doobies. Doobies lead to twinkies.”
